[CLUE-Admin] CLUE ADMIN Installfest June 15

Crawford Rainwater crawford.rainwater at itec-co.com
Fri May 17 17:09:06 MDT 2002


On the installation prep lectures, why not just point
them to the LDP's How-To's, since I think there are a
few on those topics?  Simple and lawyer free solution.

--- Crawford

> -----Original Message-----
> From: clue-admin-admin at clue.denver.co.us
> [mailto:clue-admin-admin at clue.denver.co.us]On Behalf Of Lynn Danielson
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 10:58 AM
> To: clue-admin at clue.denver.co.us
> Subject: Re: [CLUE-Admin] CLUE ADMIN Installfest June 15
>
>
> Dave Price wrote:
> > On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 06:54:01PM +0000, tipsrules99 at attbi.com wrote:
> >
> >>CLUE ADMIN:
> >>
> > <snip>
> > If we need to limit the installfest to CLUE
> >
> >>then we can discuss it at tonight's meeting.
> >>
> > I really think that we should try to open installfest to 'all interested
> > parties' in the name of linux advocacy.  This is a great opportunity
> > for the curious to see linux in action, and the people who use it.
>
>  From what Mike just posted, "The room can hold 30-35 with no problem" --
> I agree.  That number of people is about what we've seen show up to our
> Batky-Howell installfests, but it's still not what I'd call a large event.
> I think the question is less about limiting the installfest to CLUE and
> more about how much we advertise the event and try to get new people to
> show up.  By simply announcing it to our group and making an attempt to
> get the word out to other local LUGs, we'll probably get our normal
> installfest turnout.
>
> > Also,  have we gotten any further on the issues we discussed a while
> > back?
> >
> > * Waiver or release for all systems, combined with a written statement
> > of obectives for the install (distro, dual boot, X / Desktop, ethenet,
> > modem, etc.).
>
> Not to my knowlege.  The North Texas LUG used to have stuff along these
> lines on their website.  I think Jeff said he'd seen this sort of thing
> on-line as well, but I don't think he mentioned where.  I'd recommend
> we look for something we can plagerize and easily modify for our use.
> Feel free to look for some of this stuff and post it (or links to it)
> back here for comments.
>
> We might be able to get Matt Porter to look at a waiver before we
> finalize our version.  I have a friend who's a lawyer, but contract
> law's not his strong suit.  Maybe Jeff's wife, Emily, would be
> willing to look at it?  The last time we looked into this sort of
> thing, the problem was that the waivers we found were written to
> the protect the group.  Since we've never registered CLUE with the
> state as an organization, it's not a legal entity for use in a
> contract.  So, the waiver would have to be written to protect us
> as individuals from suit by the attendees.  We had a lawyer in our
> group at that time (his name was Brock) who clue'd us in on this
> problem.  Unless we can find a bonefide, lawyer approved, fill in
> the blank form on the web.  We'll want to get some legal advice on
> the matter.
>
> > * A what is linux and why we love it presentation, and perhaps
> > additional discussion before the install and perhaps at lunch time?
>
> This would be a great idea for a larger event with more newbies.  I
> believe most of the installfest attendee's are going to be people who
> have been using Linux for a while and are either having trouble working
> through a configuration issue or wanting to try something new.
>
> Not to discourage you or anyone else from doing this sort of thing,
> but I'd be suprised if your interested audience numbers more than two
> or three.  I think demonstrating various applications, especially what
> might be considered "killer apps", would garner more interest from the
> whole group.
>
> Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what your suggesting, but it seems to me,
> we always have trouble successfully wrapping everything in the time
> allotted.  I think the people who show up are going to be more
> interested in your expertise solving their problem than hearing you
> talk about why you love Linux.  So, my inclination is to focus on the
> problems that walk in the door and to plan on organizing a bigger
> installfest in a larger venue later in the year.  We could possibly get
> some sponsorship to pay for hotel conference room if we asked.  Whether
> or not we can successfully pull off a larger event depends on how much
> time Mike is willing to put into organizing it and how much the rest of
> us are willing to support him in that endeavor.  Does anyone else want
> to try to plan something like this in the fall (September maybe)?
>
> Lynn
>
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