[CLUE-Admin] Re: CLUE North CVS access

[Jed S. Baer]

On Wed, 21 May 2003 06:32:30 -0600
"Crawford Rainwater" <crawford.rainwater at itec-co.com> wrote:

> Just wondering, I know Gus and I are on the CLUE-Admin
> list, Dave and Joanne though (in case this is unnecessary
> FW'ing)?
> 
> > Jeff writes:
> >
> > I think a bit of history with the CLUE-North idea would be
> > helpful to explain
> > why we split off a document tree:
> >
> > 1)  When we kicked around the idea of a CLUE-North meeting
...
> > 2)  Autonomous was not really defined except in the context of a
> > meeting.
...
> > I think we envisioned that the CLUE-north group would be an
> > autonomous brother
> > to CLUE-DTC.  We share the same name and members on email lists, but
> > the meetings are separate and not simply the same meeting at two
> > different locations each month.
> >
> > IMO, The definition of autonomy is the crux of this matter of the
> > web site.
...
> > 3)  Given the necessity of autonomy, including speaker
> > scheduling, I created
> > the clue-north home page.  Others, such as Randy made additional
> > changes such
> > as cloning the document tree and creating a new navigation bar.
> > I believe
> > they made these changes from the point of autonomy.

So, there was a morph from "meeting" to "group"? Well, I'm not arguing
against that, only noting here that the clone is incomplete. I also have
trouble seeing any "necessity of autonomy". "Capability" of autonomy is
something else.

We can choose to make autonomy a crux of the website question, but it
needn't be -- at least not at this point, it seems to me.

I'm uncertain of the benefits at this point of the seperation as it is
currently implemented. The burden of website maintenance doesn't look to
me to be an issue at all. But already, coordination between the two has
caused misunderstanding (albeit a small and inconsequential one), and now
we have this discussion that crosses 2 admin lists (note I'm cross-posting
this reply).

[snipping more that I don't have time for]

> > consideration.  If you look at our usage statistics, the top
> > entry and exit
> > point is the / page.  This correlates to the findings from our web
> > site survey that most people use the CLUE web site for the meeting
> > information.

Exactly.

> > *  Given the goals of autonomy, does it make sense to combine all
> > of the north
> > pages back into one?  I think it may be confusing from a member
> > point of view
> > because every page would have to indicate to which meeting or
> > group of admins
> > this information applies.

Again, there isn't that much seperation, and linkage can easily handle
having seperate presentation and meeting info stuff.

I probably will be away from e-mail access until Saturday.

jed
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