[clue-admin] Focus and direction some

[Philipp Giddings]

I agree CLUE needs more volunteerism form its membership.
I wax poetic for the days of the CLIQs 1 and 2.
Philipp

On 12/21/2010 8:37 PM, David L. Willson wrote:
> I'm the one that brought up charters and elections.
>
> I brought them both up because I hadn't seen a steering meeting in a long, long time, and it seemed like CLUE was stagnating, and the only remedy for stagnation is spicing and stirring of the pot.
>
> I brought up elections because:
>
>   - Dennis seems to be accumulating jobs, like Webmaster. He seems to have too much to do, with only worse coming for him.
>   - Jed said a long time ago that he wants a replacement. I tried to get him one, which didn't work out, but I'm not out of steam yet, so I intend to try again, but I need a room-full of geeks to work with.
>   - Talks and schwag seem not to be getting done in an energetic way.
>
> I figured that making some noise and calling for an election couldn't hurt, and might help.
>
> So, since you all didn't already have a set schedule for an annual meeting, and since you didn't look like moving to get one soon, I threw January out and I put it in a Charter, so it (hopefully) won't get forgotten.
>
> On "passing the torch": It boggles my mind that you want to drive your volunteers until they are so exhausted that they call for relief. Who wants to sign up for hard, unpaid work until you can't do any more? A year, sure, but forever? Not this Indian. Add to that the fact that Jed's been in bondage past his wanting to pass the torch for two years. It seems like an annual "put up or shut up" meeting is just what the club needs.
>
> But here's where I am tonight. I'm tired. I feel like I'm fighting with "the old guard", and getting nothing but grilling. What's YOUR big idea? I know what mine is, and what Dave's is, and what Dennis' is. Only big ideas are going to get your club moving again. What do you want? Things as they are?
> Fine, you can have it, and I'll go do something else.
>
> If you want to get moving again, be willing to try new things, just for grins, and to keep trying new things, until you get the results you want. Here are the results I want: 50 people in the room for every meeting, money in the pot, everyone learns a bit and has fun, and nobody is doing a volunteer job that sucks.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Crawford Rainwater"<crawford.rainwater at linux-etc.com>
> To: clue-admin at cluedenver.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 7:55:25 PM
> Subject: [clue-admin] Focus and direction some
>
> ----- "Jed S. Baer"<cluemail at jbaer.cotse.net>  wrote: -----
>
> <...snipped...>
>
>> For the moment, let's get the mailing list issue settled, then attack
>> the question of hosting, since our contract is up for renewal.
>>
>> I suggest tabling the discussion of a Charter, re-alignment of CLUE
>> admin positions, and elections, until at least the previous 2 items are
>> settled.
>>
> Jed has a valid point.  Seems everyone has changed focus from the VPSLink renewal which I would put before this email list issue since the renewal is due 01 Jan 2011.  Now granted, David A. has collected donations if I am following the CLUE-Admin postings correctly (thanks and nice job BTW!).  But that leaves, "what does the future entail?" still.  As noted along these recent topics is that everyone seems to get excited (or perhaps panicked) at the last minute, then things fade to "what was that issue?" when it comes up (several months) later.
>
> So current topics that need to be addressed:
> - VPSLink renewal (pretty much in check) for 2011
> - Email list(s) topic
> - Web site "gen 2" or CMS'ed or revamped
> - CLUE Charter
> - CLUE elections and/or admin positions
>
> Now to throw a historical deal into the mix on the latter.  Typically one remained as "CLUE President" until there was a desire to "pass the torch" such as with Jeff Cann to Dennis on the last term.  Now there is a request for having "elections" for positions of such.  Did I miss something about Dennis desiring to "pass the torch" or was there an assumption that came up from someone somewhere?  Same with the "charter" since I am pondering why something now when it has not been done since CLUE started perhaps or even became a bit more organized (if such can be quantified of course)?  Just putting this on the table as food for thought.
>
>> Perhaps Dennis can provide an update on his progress with Drupal. Last
>> I heard there was mention of some other CMS. Knowing more about the
>> status of this item will help with establishing priorities. My guess is that
>> we don't have enough data on this yet, for it to influence our decision
>> on hosting.
>>
> I would be interested in a status on such.  Worst case I could attempt to make a quick Drupal site as well (minus the Mailman side initially) since I am working on a Drupal front end for CLUE "webinars" or "presentations" to go with the webinar/conferencing system.  Thought since others mentioned interest in the main CLUE web site via a CMS, I have no issues seeing the results.
>
> FWIW.
>
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