Collins Richey wrote: > <start of rant> > I personally don't have much use for KDE or GNOME. Both are examples > of what I like to call bloatware. I use XFCE instead. Hmm. XFCE uses GTK+, so you need that on top of X. Speaking of X, talk about bloatware! Who needs all that GUI cruft. Virtual consoles made all that obsolete. Dave