[CLUE-Talk] ISDN

[Timothy C. Klein]

Actually, there are only two places where you can have fiber (NextLevel 
Fiber, actually) to your home:  the old Lowery AFB, and the new homes that 
went up on the old Elitches.  There are, however, many, many cross boxes 
around Denver that work on the NextLevel fiber, as well as older boxes that 
might have conventional pair gain served by a fiber hut connection.  All 
three of these a Qwest account rep might call 'fiber' as the account reps are 
generally pretty short on the technical details.

However, if your house IS served by NextLevel fiber, either to the curb or to 
the cross box, you CAN get ISDN but IDSL might be tricky.  The cards needed 
to allow that connection in the Remote Terminal may or may not be around, I 
get a different story each time I ask (I happen to work with these issues 
every day).

If you were to tell me the phone number or address you are interested in 
having served, I could tell you exactly what you have.  I can't give you 
specifics, like cross box addresses and cable-pair numbers, but I could tell 
you in general.  Email me off list if you are interested.

Tim


On Tuesday 05 June 2001 07:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > if you can get ISDN, you should be able to get IDSL, it's about $90 a
> > > month, not cheap, but then neither is ISDN.  I've heard good things
> > > about speakeasy.net as a provider for IDSL.
> >
> > This is a misnomer of sorts. The reason I cannot get DSL is due to the
> > fact that I have fiber optics instead of copper for my phone line. ISDN
> > is really cheap, almost cheaper than DSL and you almost always get a
> > static IP (try and get one of those from Qwest).
>
> If you can get ISDN you can get IDSL.  It turns out that the bandwidth
> of an IDSL connection is 144Kbps, and coincidentally the bandwidth of
> the two (BRI) ISDN B channels is 64Kbps each and the D channel is 16
> Kbps.  64 + 64 + 16 = 144
>
> My residence is also in an area not eligible for DSL due to the "pair
> gain" in use by Qwest, but I can get frame-relay, ISDN, IDSL, etc.
> here.
>
> I'm kinda doubting that you have fiber optic cables direct to the NIU
> attached to the outside of your residence/building you live in, unless
> you live in a large commercial office building or something.  :)
>
> I find that ISDN is very expensive, what with the $80 per month phone
> line and the ISP charge of at least $80 per month on top of that.
> Compared to cable broadband or DSL the price seems high.
>
> We used UUNet as an ISDN provider in Denver for a while.  The service
> was just fine.  No fancy software required; just tell your modem to
> dial ATDT###-###-####&###-###-#### where the two numbers are the same.
> With the two channels bonded you get 128Kbps.  It should go without
> saying that the machine on our end was a Linux system.  They charged us
> about $150 per month for a /29 subnet (6 usable addresses) routed
> through our connection.  UUNet provides a commercial-grade connection,
> of course, and the pricing reflects that.
>
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