[CLUE-Talk] Pointy-Haired Boss (WAS: The Microsoft penalty that isn't - Tech News - CNET.com)

[Sean LeBlanc]

On 04-19 11:12, Kevin Cullis wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> Take a look at my signature file below and, YES, I'll get along with him
> just fine!!  I've got all of Demings books and some about him. He
> definitely TRULY supports geeks, i.e. joy in work and how management is
> responsible for the systems that people work in, therefore, most
> problems are managers problems.
> 
> Contact me off line and we'll talk more.

Any particular Deming titles to recommend starting off with? He's one name
I've heard over, and over, and over, and a smidgeon of his story, but other
than that, I'm pretty clueless about him.

I'm pretty omnivorous when it comes to devouring books, myself. My readings
range from "pop" books (just finished The O'Reilly Factor), to assorted tech
stuff (of course) to classic stuff like Kerouac and Hemingway to really
bizarre and offbeat stuff like Tom Robbins or Terence McKenna (one really
"out there" guy - I was lucky to stumble upon a hardbound copy of True
Hallucinations and The Archaic Revival in a discount bin for $2) and then
range back to the stock "geek" books and authors like Hitchhikers Guide,
Stranger in a Strange Land, Neal Stephenson...but I really got into reading
some of what I call "meta-books" - books about programming and software
engineering in the workplace - Peopleware, After the Gold Rush, Mythical
Man-Month...another I can't remember right now. 


> 
> Kevin
> 
> "Chris K. Chew" wrote:
> > 
> > Sheesh Kevin, I'm starting to think that you would get along pretty well
> > with my project manager.  His old job sent him to the south someplace to
> > study the Deming approach to management.  We even have hoshin's
> > periodically.
> > 
> > I read all of the time, any kind of book.  I am sure that reading various
> > things help me be a more effective and organized programmer.  It does the
> > same for my citizenship.
> > 
> > Jim Collins is now in the reading list.  Thanks!
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: clue-talk-admin at clue.denver.co.us
> > [mailto:clue-talk-admin at clue.denver.co.us]On Behalf Of Kevin Cullis
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:10 PM
> > To: clue-talk at clue.denver.co.us
> > Subject: Re: [CLUE-Talk] The Microsoft penalty that isn't - Tech News -
> > CNET.com
> > 
> > Chris,
> > 
> > Finally, someone is reading more than geek books ;-)  I wish more geeks
> > would read the non geek books so that they could become better geeks.
> > 
> > I find that his "Built to Last" and "Good to Great" are a package to be
> > read together.
> > 
> > Ok, Jim Collins web site is:
> > 
> > http://www.jimcollins.com
> > 
> > Now if someone will read about Deming, it's one more nail in the PHB's
> > coffin. ;-)
> > 
> > Kevin
> > 
> > "Chris K. Chew" wrote:
> > >
> > > My project manager just finished that book and says it has changed the way
> > > he looks at business altogether.  Looks like it's time for a trip to the
> > > tattered cover...
> > >
> > > Chris
> > 
> > >
> > > Or the PHB's tell you NOT to think and leave you brain at home before
> > > you come to work!! Or, they use the intimidation factor because they
> > > want to look better than you.
> > >
> > > Read the book "Good to Great" by Jim Collins, it tells you WHO NOT to
> > > work for. Check out his Readings page.

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