[CLUE-Talk] FWD: Red Hat 8.0 To Launch This Month With Enhanced Linux Desktop

Richard Knechtel rknech at pcisys.net
Sat Sep 28 20:04:37 MDT 2002


I hear the next version of all the Linux distro's are all going to codename 
their next release - "Viagra" - "We keep your OS UP!"


At 02:24 PM 9/28/02 -0600, you wrote:
>hildy at totalspeed.net wrote:
>[...]
>>As Sun Microsystems prepares to debut its next Sun ONE Desktop on Linux
>>later this week, Linux leader Red Hat plans to show a more aggressive
>>desktop bid with Red Hat Linux 8.0.
>
>So I ask myself, "what's a Sun ONE Desktop?"
>
>Here's a link: http://wwws.sun.com/software/.  It seems that Sun ONE is a 
>brand they apply to all their software.  For desktop apps they have GNOME, 
>StarOffice, and StarSuite.  So I suppose it is the Sun version of .NET.
>
>I'm glad to see that Red Hat has a similar soup of products, like Advanced 
>Server, Stronghold Enterprise, and Red Hat Database.  I hate it when 
>marketing jargon hides what's underneath but I supose it's necessary for 
>something.
>
>I also notice that Red Hat has acquired ArsDigita.  ArsDigita was founded 
>by Philip Greenspun, a CS prof at MIT.  He seems like a smart guy and 
>was/is interested in how to make the Internet more useful.  The company 
>developed the ArsDigita Community System, a colaboration tool that takes 
>more time than I have to understand.  But it seems to be a predecessor of 
>Wiki Wiki Webs, blogs, etc.  They developed ACS on a shoestring and became 
>very successful, until venture capital was brought in and ruined 
>things.  Dr. Greenspun had a long article about the problems and the 
>litigation but it's been removed as the result of a settlement.  Googling 
>on arsdigita and lawsuit will find it for you.
>
>ACS was initially open source in some ways.  When it was taken closed, 
>Open ACS was started.  It would be nice if Red Hat would merge the 
>two.  One day I'll find out how ACS compares to Zope and other web server 
>tool things.
>
>It's a shame that ArsDigita didn't stay true to its founding.  One thing 
>they did was to found/fund ArsDigita University which offered an undergrad 
>computer science curriculum for free.  It was a one year program (a BSCS 
>without all the non-CS courses) and all the material was available on the 
>Internet.  There was also some sort of correspondence way to take the 
>program.  It only lasted one year before ArsDigita's legal/financial 
>problems resulted in a loss of funding.  It would be cool to see Red Hat 
>or other companies fill the gap--the people running the program seemed 
>*very* bright.
>
>The courses are still on the web.  I hope to spend time studying them some 
>day, since I don't have any formal CS training.  Take a look: 
>http://aduni.org/courses/.
>
>Sorry if you read this far and didn't find anything interesting.
>
>Dave
>
>
>
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