[CLUE-Talk] Iraq Stuph

[Don Collier]

I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion about Bush and his
administration, but there is no need for name calling.  Even if you dont
like him for whatever reason, he is OUR president.  Be nice.


Matt Gushee said:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 09:37:28PM -0600, Jeffery Cann wrote:
>>
>> > Well, I can't read the whole article...only the first page
>>
>> I don't claim that WMD will not be found.  I hope for the sake of our
>> government's credibility that they will be found in Iraq.  If so, then I
>> think it will help some of us believe the Bush administration's claims.
>
> Good God, Jeff, why do you want us to believe the Bush administration?
> So the SOB can get reelected and continue parceling out the remnants of
> our economy and our rights to his corporate cronies?
>
> I suppose an argument could be made that having a credible US
> administration would improve our relations with other countries. But
> really, I don't think we can hope for much on that score. Europe will
> not quickly forget Bush's heavy-handed unilateralism (especially since
> it shows no signs of diminishing). Those who hate us in the Arab/Muslim
> world will not quickly forget that, nor our continuing strong support
> for Israel.
>
> You've made me curious, though: do you sincerely believe that our
> government has ever had substantive evidence of banned weapons in Iraq?
> After all: Colin Powell goes to the UN displaying a bunch of Rohrschach
> photographs and praising Tony Blair's plagiarized dossier; the CIA puts
> out forged documents claiming to show that Iraq tried to buy Uranium
> from Niger; in starting our war, we cut off an active weapons inspection
> program, even though--as I think we agree--there was no imminent danger;
> and once in country, our agents visit site after site, each time
> declaring, "We've got something here! .... Well, maybe .... That is, uh,
> never mind!" Now I ask you: are those the actions of men with a bona
> fide case?
>
> I've got to give you credit, too: every time I think I know where you're
> coming from, you floor me with something like this. Most list members in
> these debates are pretty predictable (including myself, I suppose). You
> help keep life interesting.
>
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