[CLUE-Talk] The prism of our experience

Randy Arabie randy at arabie.org
Fri Jul 11 07:32:53 MDT 2003


On Thursday, 10 July 2003 at 19:47:04 -0600, Matt Gushee <mgushee at havenrock.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 09:57:58PM +0000, Randy Arabie wrote:
> > 
> > I didn't read the commentary by the Christian Science
> > Monitor.  But the quote you included in your email implied
> > that starting wars without congressional declarations of war
> > was a "conservative" and Republican issue.
> > 
> > It isn't, and to imply so is BS.
> 
> For once, I heartily agree with you (didn't expect that, didja?).
> 
> But the other side of the coin is that opposition to the Iraq war is not a
> "liberal" or Democratic party issue, as some commentators have implied (though
> you haven't, that I recall).
 
I agree.  I don't think the blame for allowing war by
Executive Order can be placed on any one group...except the
American people.

> Some of the toughest critics of the Iraq enterprise are, in fact,
> conservatives--at least, to the extent that word has meaning, and to the
> extent that I understand it, they seem to me to be outstanding examples
> of conservatism. Do the names James Jeffords and Ron Paul ring a bell?
> And it probably won't surprise you to hear that I frequently visit
> anti-war/anti-Iraq-war websites. Some of the best of them come from a
> conservative viewpoint (e.g. antiwar.com, and particularly Justin
> Raimondo's column: http://www.antiwar.com/justin/justincol.html).
 
Yes, I'm familiar with both J. Jeffords and R. Paul...more
so with R. Paul.  He was a frequent guest on a talk radio
show I used to listen to years ago.  I can't recall the host
just now.

Thanks for the link to J. Riamondo, I took a quick look.
I'm going to have to read more.

> But of course, we know (don't we?) that The Liberals are just the
> all-purpose political bogeymen of our age, since noone is scared of The
> Communists any more. It's been many years since there was any
> significant number of real liberals in positions of authority in the US.

Life would be awful dull w/o a good bogeyman ;)
-- 

Allons Rouler!

Randy
http://www.arabie.org/



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