It is all about Oil [WAS Re: [CLUE-Talk] Traitors, Cowards, Scoundrels, and Intelligent Dissenters]

[Jeffery Cann]

On Saturday 29 March 2003 08:31 am, Randy Arabie wrote:

> In making such statements you are implying that the 70%** of the American
> people who support the war to disarm Iraq and liberate it's people are
> in fact a bunch of useful idiots who have been duped into supporting
> the worlds largest armed robbery.  

That's exactly what I think - that the majority of Americans (who are not 
idiots, BTW) were duped by the Bush administration.

I think you give the average American way too much credit for discernment and 
logical reasoning.  They are easily swayed by statements from their leaders.  
Most of the Americans do not read widely like everyone who subscribes to this 
email list.  Most Americans do not think critically about what their leaders 
tell them.  They simply shrug and say, 'Well, if the President says it is 
true, it must be.  So, I better be patriotic and "support the troops".'

The Bush administration has lied about the following reasons for going to war:

1)  Iraq has nuclear weapons which they revised to:
1a)  Iraq has raw materials for making nuclear weapons, which they revised to:
1b)  Iraq INTENDS to get raw materials to INTEND to make nuclear weapons, 
which was finally revised to:
1c)  Dick Cheney saying on Meet The Press that Mohammed Al Baradi, the chief 
nuclear weapons inspector is 'wrong' about the nuclear weapons / raw 
materials / intent of the Iraqi government.

Then the Bush administration told us:
2)  Saddam supports terrorists
2a)  9/11 was committed by terrorists
2b) Therefore .... (they didn't say anything, but the 70% of country filled in 
the blank)

This leap in logic was made even after our own spy agency, the CIA, said there 
is ABSOLUTELY no link between Al Qaeida and 9/11.

The third lie is that the USA must bring lasting peace to the middle east by 
invading Iraq.  This is not even supported by by any claims.  Just stated as 
fact.  How do we know this?  How can the Bush administration possibly predict 
the future of the middle east if Iraq becomes a 'democracy'?  It's 
preposterous and arrogant to think that you can control the future and the 
actions of 300 million people who live in the middle east.

The ONLY reason the Bush administration even talks about human rights 
atrocities committed by Saddam is because most people are against it.  So, 
they can use it to drum up support for their unjust war.

I think Hermann Goering said it best (as I pointed out in a previous thread).   
Herman Goering was one of the highest-ranking military leaders from the Nazi 
party who survived WW2.  So, it seems that he has some experience in 
manipulating the common citizen.  

After WW2, he described how easy it is to MANIPULATE common people in to 
supporting a war. The entire quote is in another thread but here is the most 
relevant portion:

"... but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding 
of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being 
attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the 
country to danger. It works the same way in any country." 

Sounds vaguely familiar to me...  But let me point out how I think the Bush 
Admistration did this:

1)  America is under attack by terrorists.  (fact)
2)  Saddam Hussein is a bad guy who supports terrorists.  (fact)
3)  To alleviate the threat of terrorism, we must eliminate Saddam Hussien's 
regime.  (not a fact, but it sounds plausible)  Here's the corrollaries:
  3a) Elimitating Saddam will lead to lasting peace in the middle east  (not a 
fact and highly unlikely according to most middle east experts)
  3b) This will free the Iraqi people from a brutal dictator  (fact)

So, the average person thinks, 'Hmm, maybe the President is right.  We must go 
to war.  We must kill Saddam Hussien.'  Unfortunately, the Bush 
administration thinks they can predict the future of the middle east after 
Iraq is 'liberated'.  Many people who HAVE thought about it think it is a bad 
idea.  The fact that 70% of the people agree with Bush indicates that they 
either:
  a) belive that the President and our armed forces can control the future  
- OR -
  b) haven't thought about the consequences of the actions of our government

Regardless of the reason they (i.e., the 70% who support this unjust war) have 
been duped, IMHO

I think the longer this war goes on, the more people will begin to see the 
truth.  

My 0.03.

-- 
Life is a tie. In the end, no one wins. 
 -- Oswald Neimo