[clue-talk] The War On...?
Don Collier
dcollier at collierclan.com
Thu Dec 30 10:22:16 MST 2004
Thanks. I will give them a read.
Jed S. Baer wrote:
>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:56:50 -0700
>Don Collier wrote:
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>>Jed S. Baer wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:55:30 -0700
>>>Don Collier wrote:
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>>>>My feeling on this is that it was his
>>>>choice. He knew that he was breaking the law and he make a choice to
>>>>continue with that behavior.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>As was Rosa Parks.
>>>
>>>The degree to which you think that's an apt analogy depends upon your
>>>opinion re. intellectual property and how valid the laws are, I
>>>suppose. And I'm not claiming that he made such a considered decision
>>>-- likely not. But the point remains. I ought to spend some time
>>>looking this up, but I'm not going to this morning -- perhaps later.
>>>But I recall seeing well-written legal opinions or statements as to the
>>>"duty" of the citizen to obey unjust law.
>>>
>>>
>>In my opinion, every American has a duty to obey the law now matter how
>>unjust that we feel it is. There are ways to make your voice heard
>>other than breaking the law. We cant pick and choose which laws that we
>>wish to obey.
>>
>>When you find those documents I would be interested in reading them.
>>
>>
>
>One of them I was thinking of, in particular, was
>http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=394&invol=147
>-- SHUTTLESWORTH v. BIRMINGHAM, 394 U.S. 147 (1969).
>
>[quote]
>Held:
>
> 1. A law subjecting the right of free expression in publicly owned
>places to the prior restraint of a license, without narrow, objective, and
>definite standards is unconstitutional, and a person faced with such a law
>may ignore it and exercise his First Amendment rights. Pp. 150-151.
>[/quote]
>
>Which I got from Michael Gaddy:
>http://www.sierratimes.com/04/11/28/gaddy.htm
>
>Another I'm thinking of is worded along the lines of "a law which is
>unconstitutional is so from the moment it is passed, and doesn't need to
>wait for the court to declare it invalid". Striking out so far in finding,
>it though.
>
>jed
>
>
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