[CLUE-Talk] help with spammer information

Charles Oriez coriez at oriez.org
Sat Nov 6 14:11:08 MST 2004


At 03:32 PM 11/6/2004, Mike Staver wrote:
>Wow Charles, I'm going to see if I can make this work for me.  Who would I 
>submit a DMCA complaint to?

the ISP hosting the web page and the ISP whose IPA was used to deliver the 
email (chances are a zombie, but they have to notify the owner of the 
machine, who will get rattled into fixing their zombiehood)



>Charles Oriez wrote:
>>At 12:58 PM 11/6/2004, Matt Gushee wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, Nov 06, 2004 at 07:59:30AM -0500, Charles Oriez wrote:
>>> >
>>> > 2) Make shirnkwrap licensing work for you.  Post a notice on your domain
>>> > that any for emails sent out with your domain name in the from, the
>>> > langauge of message and any content on any referenced web pages is
>>> > copyrighted by you. Note that anyone objecting to your policies has a 
>>> sole
>>> > remedy the option of ceasing to use your domain name in their mail.
>>> >
>>> > 3) Start sending DMCA notices demanding that the pages be taken down,
>>> > pursuant to your copyright ownership of them, and demand the 
>>> identities of
>>> > the people paying for the pages
>>>
>>>That's an interesting tactic. Has anyone actually done this? Has it been
>>>tested in court? And, as a practical matter, how enforceable would this
>>>be against foreign entities?
>>
>>It's been discussed on nanae.  I am waiting for the next spammer to use 
>>my domain to try it out.  DMCA violations don't require an active law 
>>suit to subpoena information from third parties.  That is the primary 
>>attraction.  I'll let you know the outcome.
>>
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>>Charles Oriez     coriez at oriez.org    39  34' 34.4"N / 105 00' 06.3"W
>>"Drag God into politics, and you'll ruin his reputation in no time." -- 
>>Molly Ivins
>>
>>
>>
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Charles Oriez     coriez at oriez.org    39  34' 34.4"N / 105 00' 06.3"W
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