[clue-talk] How do CLUEbies vote?

[David L. Willson]

I generally vote Republican, since Clinton happened.  I would have split
my voting, in honor of Jimmy Carter, Jerry Ford, and other "mostly
harmless" Dems, and the ideals I share with them, but Clinton ****ed the
bipartisan spirit right out of me.  Heck, I'm ~still~ pissed off about
it.

I'm Christian, perforce, because I have pretty good recollection of most
of what I've done, and per choice, because I'll follow, as best I may,
the example of somebody who doesn't do the questionable things I've
done, and speaks out courageously, and loves people.  Jesus is a Heck of
a good example thereof.

I don't care who anybody "marries" in a civil ceremony, but I do need to
restrict benefits, or ~rewards~, like tax breaks, inheritance priority,
things like that, to behaviors that are life-building (good) and neither
predatory (bad) nor inconsequential (neutral), according to some
reasonably objective measure.  The one I usually use in secular
discussion, and use as an "accurate interpretation" test in discussions
with Christians, is survival-ethics theory.  Does behavior X increase
the chance of survivability, the quality of life, and/or the
cohesiveness of the organism?  If so, it's objectively "good" behavior.
I'll fore-go making an "absolute" conclusion about homosexual marriage,
but I will say that ~I~ can't see anything "reward worthy" in it, so, in
voting practice, in spite of the fact that it's below me to say what
another person should or shouldn't do on their own time,  because the
civil institution of "marriage" carries the tax and inheritance-priority
benefits I've mentioned, it's incumbent on me to defend my tax dollars,
or the inheritance of offspring and rejected wives and husbands.

I've got no friggin' idea who I'm voting for in '08.  It just might
possibly be Obama, but it will NOT be Mrs. Clinton.  I still kinda wish
Powell had run.  He seemed right enough to me.

:-)

On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 13:19 -0600, David Rudder wrote:
> CLUE members seem to be primarily gun owners and liberatarians.  Not me, 
> but many of you.  Personally, I'm a big fan of the nanny state, but 
> that's just me.
> 
> I don't see any political figures that match the general CLUE 
> sensibilities.  Who did y'all vote for in 2004?  Who will you vote for 
> in 2008?  I bet it's the Republican candidate, even though it was GWB in 
> 2004, because you won't vote for the Dems.
> 
> Personally, my top choice isn't running yet.  Michael Bloomberg.  Second 
> would be Richardson, then Obama, then Hagel, then Gore, then Edwards and 
> if none of those people are available, I'll hold my nose and vote for 
> Hillary.
> 
> For all of the liberatarians in the group, will you hold your nose and 
> vote for someone who wants to tell you who to marry?  What religion to 
> practice?  How you can die?  Has eight years of being spied on, lied to 
> and ripped off been enough? 
> 
> Maybe it's a professional thing.  I'm a programmer and most of you are 
> administrators.  That means I'll be more likely to cling desperately to 
> standards and governing bodies, even if they suck (*ahem* JSR process 
> *cough*).  So, yeah, I want a standard authentication protocol, even if 
> JAAS sucks, and someone to say that you can't feed cows diseased beef, 
> even if the FDA is a bloated piece of diseased cow meat.  So, I vote 
> Democrat. 
> 
> -Dave
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