[clue-talk] surveillance cameras

[Dennis J Perkins]

On Sun, 2007-09-23 at 07:47 -0600, Michael Fierro wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 07:09:21AM -0600, Jed S. Baer wrote:
> 
> > > I am not sure the argument for "No, you can't have it.  It's my tape, 
> > > now go away!"
>  
> > The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,
> > and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be
> > violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported
> > by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be
> > searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
> 
> Ah, but you forget that the current administration considers such concepts to
> be quaint and antiquated. Especially since the scary terrorists that we all
> need to be terrified of, to the point that we give up all of those quaint old
> freedoms guaranteed us in the Constitution... 
> 
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