[clue-talk] Wow, Card's a little political...

Jed S. Baer cluemail at jbaer.cotse.net
Fri Oct 31 22:55:39 MDT 2008


On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:25:04 -0400
Angelo Bertolli wrote:

> By the way, the Democrats aren't socialist.  Neither am I, but this
> list has a lot of right wing campers so I know the things I pick to say
> make me sound differently.  We're all capitalists in this country, but
> some of us think that a different mix and balance of social programs
> are necessary for a good society.  (Well except for maybe you and Jed,
> who as far as I can tell don't think we should have any social programs
> or taxes.)  But at least admit that it's not as black and white as "the 
> Republicans are Capitalists" and "the Democrats are Communists."  It's 
> just not true.

Regrettably, plenty of nominal Republicans have plenty of socialist
leanings. Do you remember Hillary's nice little speech where she said, in
reference to these so-called "windfall profits" that oil companies get,
that she would "take that money" from them? How about Obama's comments to
Joe the Plumber? He wants to "spread the wealth around". I note only that
Democrats seem to be more open about it. But IIRC the concept of national
health care has bi-partisan support.

Gee, what does that remind you of? "From each according to his abilities,
to each according to his needs." That's Karl Marx. That's part of
socialism. That's what we have in Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid,
AFDC, ad nauseum.

It's been a very long time since we were "all capitalists" in this
country, if indeed that's ever been the case. Perhaps in the very early
days of the country. Ever look here: http://www.cpusa.org/ ? Or were you
unaware of the direct support of the American Communist Party by the
Soviet Union? There have been plenty of hard-core communists / socialists
in the U.S.

I cannot think of a single Federal elected office holder who actually
adheres to the U.S. Constitution. Even Ron Paul has voted for pork-barrel
spending. Contrast that to, for example, Grover Cleveland, a Democrat,
who vetoed "benevolent" appropriations. I just love to link to this
article by Walter Williams:

http://townhall.com/Columnists/WalterEWilliams/2006/09/13/constitution_day

I have nothing whatsover against charity. But I do believe that it should
be a private decision, not something forced upon people at gunpoint. And
if you don't believe that government-sponsored charity is enforced,
ultimately, by force, just stop paying your taxes. At some point, armed
federal agents will come to your door.


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