> > if you can get ISDN, you should be able to get IDSL, it's about $90 a > > month, not cheap, but then neither is ISDN. I've heard good things > > about speakeasy.net as a provider for IDSL. > This is a misnomer of sorts. The reason I cannot get DSL is due to the > fact that I have fiber optics instead of copper for my phone line. ISDN is > really cheap, almost cheaper than DSL and you almost always get a static > IP (try and get one of those from Qwest). If you can get ISDN you can get IDSL. It turns out that the bandwidth of an IDSL connection is 144Kbps, and coincidentally the bandwidth of the two (BRI) ISDN B channels is 64Kbps each and the D channel is 16 Kbps. 64 + 64 + 16 = 144 My residence is also in an area not eligible for DSL due to the "pair gain" in use by Qwest, but I can get frame-relay, ISDN, IDSL, etc. here. I'm kinda doubting that you have fiber optic cables direct to the NIU attached to the outside of your residence/building you live in, unless you live in a large commercial office building or something. :) I find that ISDN is very expensive, what with the $80 per month phone line and the ISP charge of at least $80 per month on top of that. Compared to cable broadband or DSL the price seems high. We used UUNet as an ISDN provider in Denver for a while. The service was just fine. No fancy software required; just tell your modem to dial ATDT###-###-####&###-###-#### where the two numbers are the same. With the two channels bonded you get 128Kbps. It should go without saying that the machine on our end was a Linux system. They charged us about $150 per month for a /29 subnet (6 usable addresses) routed through our connection. UUNet provides a commercial-grade connection, of course, and the pricing reflects that. -- Jim Ockers (ockers@ockers.net) Ask me about Linux! Contact info: please see http://www.ockers.net/ Fight Spam! Join CAUCE (Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) at http://www.cauce.org/ .