<div>In principle, I agree with you wholeheartedly.&nbsp; However, you implicitly make the assumption that everyone in the country/world will own and use guns respectfully and respsonsibly.&nbsp; As we have all seen in our daily lives that&#39;s just not the case.
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<div>-tony<br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 9/21/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">David L. Willson</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Y&#39;know what ~does~ reduce crime?&nbsp;&nbsp;Guns.<br><br>Normal folks knowing how to use guns, normal folks owning guns, and
<br>making those simple facts about the normal folks common knowledge so<br>that when some heretofore normal person goes &quot;abby normal&quot;, they think<br>two or three times about the risk inherent in committing a crime.
<br><br><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566715.stm">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1566715.stm</a><br><a href="http://newsbusters.org/node/12267">http://newsbusters.org/node/12267</a><br><br>Guns, not cameras.&nbsp;&nbsp;Guns in the hands of the those who respect life.
<br><br>:-)<br><br>On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 17:33 +0000, <a href="mailto:dennisjperkins@comcast.net">dennisjperkins@comcast.net</a> wrote:<br>&gt; There was an article yesterday saying that the surveillance cameras in England have not reduced crime.&nbsp;&nbsp;No surprise there.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;m guessing that the cameras are supposed to catch people running red lights.&nbsp;&nbsp;Maybe they can identify the car, but can they identify the driver reliably?&nbsp;&nbsp;It&#39;s one thing to be handed a ticket by an officer, but another to be identified by a camera.&nbsp;&nbsp;Can it identify people who look very similar?&nbsp;&nbsp;How about identical twins?
<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;-------------- Original message ----------------------<br>&gt; From: rex evans &lt;<a href="mailto:rexfordevans@yahoo.com">rexfordevans@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I have noticed increasing use of cameras and
<br>&gt; &gt; I think their ability to see details will also<br>&gt; &gt; increase.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Surveillance at work place started with a<br>&gt; &gt; few cameras in critical areas, for example<br>&gt; &gt; to provide external view entry/exits, loading dock.
<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; More cameras in parking lots for security from<br>&gt; &gt; muggers,<br>&gt; &gt; rapists, kidnappers.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Some personal items got stolen at work, so that was<br>&gt; &gt; an excuse to put cameras in all hallways.
<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; At one telephone company, I noticed an audible click<br>&gt; &gt; when I neared one of the exits. It was some sort of<br>&gt; &gt; alert Sensor, that could only be heard on a quiet day.<br>&gt; &gt; Of course there were cameras at every exit also.
<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; In this same company, I became friends with a security<br>&gt; &gt; guard.<br>&gt; &gt; His previous job was in the company&#39;s &quot;listening<br>&gt; &gt; room&quot;;<br>&gt; &gt; they could and did monitor phone lines; their
<br>&gt; &gt; favorites<br>&gt; &gt; were conference room phones.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; In one cubical, they installed a clock with hidden<br>&gt; &gt; camera, because they had a computer (server) in the<br>&gt; &gt; cubical.
<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; In future, insurance companies may require that each<br>&gt; &gt; building must have surveillance of all internal areas<br>&gt; &gt; and parking lots.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I just heard Peter Boyles on radio say that Denver
<br>&gt; &gt; Police are video recording at the entrance to<br>&gt; &gt; motorcycle events. These are mainstream events, not<br>&gt; &gt; some Hell&#39;s Angels gatherings.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
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