<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:02 PM, Michael Fierro wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 10:31:04AM -0600, Kevin Cullis wrote:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The real question is: is our Government really trying to create a <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">totalitarian system or is it really protecting our nation? Those of <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I want to know what happened to the bravery that used to define being</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">American. "Give me liberty, or give me death." "We have nothing to fear but</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">fear itself." The current administration continues yelling, "be afraid, be</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">afraid of those terrorists who are trying to kill you and your children," and</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">then they proceed to take away our liberties.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Where is our bravery?</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>What liberties have you personally lost?</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So, regarding cameras, if the cameras are for protecting from evil <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">doers, then I'm all for it, but if the cameras are to protect the <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">government from it's problems and/or illegal activity, take them down.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">So many years later, and the words of Benjamin Franklin are still relevant:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>What essential liberties have we lost? You mean cameras over the streets? If a police car was in the right place at the right time and catches you speeding, are you saying your liberties are lost because you're under surveillance?</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If you read this story maybe you'll think twice, and these amounts of money were small, in the amount of a few hundred dollars each time:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><FONT class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="Tahoma" size="3"><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">In June, Italian officials broke up the ring with the arrest of four people, three in Milan and one in London, after examining financial records showing a steady transfer of funds allegedly used to recruit Islamic extremists and send them to terrorist training camps in Afghanistan.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018065.php">http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018065.php</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Many of our actions during WWII were, while not very nice, were also appropriate to the threat during that time, albeit some of it overblown for the threat. But now with the threat of a dirty nuclear bomb, the threat has become even more tangible. With the amount of interstate traffic and goods and services that are moved around, expect that this will happen in my lifetime.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Kevin</DIV></BODY></HTML>