<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV><DIV>On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:08 PM, Sean LeBlanc wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On 09-30 20:49, Kevin Cullis wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I'm more inclined to understand and believe this:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"Charting the End Times: A Visual Guide to Understanding Bible <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Prophecy" (Tim LaHaye Prophecy Library)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://www.amazon.com/Charting-End-Times-Understanding-Prophecy/dp/">http://www.amazon.com/Charting-End-Times-Understanding-Prophecy/dp/</A><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">0736901388/ref=sr_1_1/105-3124358-5185266?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1191205435&sr=8-1</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Once you read this through and through you'll see why others had <SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">difficulty with the book of Revelation in centuries past.</DIV> </BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Thanks for the link. Sorry, I know you meant well, but I think I'd find</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">LaHaye's stuff straining credibility, though. He co-wrote Left Behind, *and*</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">apparently believes this:</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"In his book Rapture Under Attack (1998), LaHaye stated that he is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"sympathetic to conspiracy theories," and in particular, he believes that</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">the Illuminati is a secret society of liberals that seeks to undermine "true</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Christianity" through the media and government."</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>There are always problems with everyone, at least in my book, just like you'd fine problems with my thoughts and comments, but it's not a big deal in my mind. Are there conspiracy theories, yes, are they all over the place, probably not, are there some now, probably. Eh.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_LaHaye#Controversy_and_criticism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_LaHaye#Controversy_and_criticism</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If that's not enough to set off the "crank" alarm bells...</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I don't throw out the baby with the bath water, I used to do that years ago for even the littlest mistake, but now I take apart each part and search for it's own truthfulness. Think of it as a baseball approach: a good hitter hits above .300, and that's 1/3 of all at bats. And truth be told, not many are at the 100% correct in everything they say and do.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Even a few people that are going from the assumption that the Bible is</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">absolutely true gave it one star on Amazon.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><DIV>And if you take the story of Noah to be true, only eight people out of the whole world, at that time, were correct in their thinking compared with the rest, i.e. "God is not going to destroy the world?" or "There is no God, so this is baloney!!"</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>You will find that most Christians do NOT believe LaHaye's perspective. It's called Dispensationalism and you can see it here:</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><A href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dispensationalism</A></DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Just like the literal interpretation of the Bible is not as main stream, but then again, I don't worry about being main stream anyways.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Have people in the past incorrectly set a date and it has passed and nothing has happened? Absolutely!!! Ever since the book of Revelation was "published" they've been saying that and it will keep on going and get worse. From my perspective, too many things are lining up and I agree with most of LaHaye's thoughts: the end is even closer. The convergence of technology, national issues around the world, hurricanes force and number are increasing, etc. Reminds me of Matthew 24:1-51.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>From my viewpoint, I'm interested in Tribulation Technology, my term, of how technology will be used in the Tribulation period of seven years and how a one world government will use it. Think RFID, gift cards, national IDs, Top500.org, FEMA, etc.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Kevin</DIV></BODY></HTML>