Well, I certainly wouldn&#39;t have a problem with that, and I&#39;ll help any way I can, but the main hesitation I have is that I don&#39;t work in a department that has anything at all to do with PR.  We do ESX support.  Not having much PR experience.  I wouldn&#39;t know where to begin.  By contrast, the boundaries/procedure of the friends and family discount program are established and reasonably well defined.   Off-hand, I&#39;ve bought 3 of my own licenses and a half dozen for various folks I know.  (fusion and workstation).   I don&#39;t really consider it an ethical violation as long as we don&#39;t abuse it.  My sense is that 2 or 3 licenses for gifts is fine, but if my purchases add up and become excessive, it starts to border on an abuse.<br>
<br>That said, I certainly don&#39;t want to make anyone uncomfortable either.  If we&#39;d rather approach VMW directly and ask if they&#39;d donate, I&#39;m certainly willing to do what I can to that end either.   I can probably ask at HR.  Frankly, if people are upset, I&#39;m actually willing to approach my manager and just flat ask him if he would have a problem with this.  It isn&#39;t my intention to be sneaky. = )<br>
<br>Mike Bean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM, David &quot;Barahon&quot; Willson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">1. VMWS is totally worth 300. That&#39;s what I paid.<br>2. I think we&#39;re on questionable ethical ground here, so let&#39;s change strategy. Let&#39;s you and I talk with the powers that be about donating a license for schwag.<br>
<br><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><i><font color="#333333">Sent via David&#39;s Droid X.</font></i></span></font></div><br><br>-----Original message-----<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5"><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><b>From: </b>Mike Bean &lt;<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>&gt;<b><br>To: </b>CLUE talk &lt;<a href="mailto:clue-talk@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-talk@cluedenver.org</a>&gt;<b><br>
Sent: </b>Mon, Nov 29, 2010 16:19:36 GMT+00:00<b><br>Subject: </b>Re: [clue-talk] Fwd: Cyber Monday 3 Day Sale - Get Up to 50% Off<br><br></div><br>I wish.  My shift recently got tweaked, I don&#39;t get into tech center<br>
until 8PM, by then it doesn&#39;t seem like there&#39;s much point; but I don&#39;t<br>mind doing it to help the cause (metaphorically speaking) as long as it<br>doesn&#39;t upset HR, and I don&#39;t think it will.   Obviously I can&#39;t eat the<br>
cost, but it seems to me that if there&#39;s enough interest, it could<br>potentially pay for itself.  Retail on workstation&#39;s ridiculous, it&#39;s<br>like 200 a pop, so figure, raffle tickets at maybe 5 a head, and you<br>
only have to sell 10 to make a profit.  <br><br>The discount program itself is a friends and family thing, I could use<br>the clue contact info, but then everybody would get the license every<br>time I bought one, so I suspect we&#39;d have to channel it through someone<br>
specific, but I&#39;m sure the details could be worked out.<br><br>Mike Bean<br><br>On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 09:08 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>&gt; I think that&#39;s a great idea, Mike. Maybe one a month is fine, though, and very generous of you. Do you usually attend the meetings?<br>
&gt; <br>&gt; David L. Willson<br>&gt; Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>&gt; RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>&gt; tel://720.333.LANS<br>&gt; Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>
&gt; <br></div></div><div class="im">&gt; ----- &quot;Mike Bean&quot;  wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; At the risk of exposing myself, to potential hate, I get a pretty<br>&gt; &gt; substantial employee discount.  It&#39;s like 50 bucks a license. <br>
&gt; &gt; Downside<br>&gt; &gt; is, I can&#39;t start buying them en-masse for clue members or HR will<br>&gt; &gt; come<br>&gt; &gt; down on my head.  By way of compromise, if there&#39;s any real interest,<br>&gt; &gt; I&#39;ll buy 2-3 licenses and maybe CLUE could in turn raffle them off as<br>
&gt; &gt; prizes?<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; Mike Bean<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 06:57 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; If you&#39;re looking for a way to run Windows on Linux, and you don&#39;t<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; mind using proprietary pay-ware, VMware Workstation is a pretty<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; awesome product and they&#39;re having a sale for cyber Monday.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; David L. Willson<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; tel://720.333.LANS<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br></div><div><div>
</div><div class="h5">&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- &quot;The VMware Team&quot;  wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;           View this email on mobile devices | Online version<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
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&gt; &gt; apps like Mac apps using the most reliable Windows-on-Mac platform.<br>&gt; &gt; Users of previous versions of VMware Fusion or any version of<br>&gt; &gt; Parallels Desktop for Mac can take advantage of VMware Fusion 3 for a<br>
&gt; &gt; limited time promotion of only $9.99!<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                        &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                        &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                       Buy<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;                                     Online<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                     $39.99<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                         &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                     $79.99<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;                                     That’s<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                      50%<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                         &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                       OFF<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;                                     MSRP!<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                       Buy<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                    Upgrade<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                      $9.99<br>
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&gt; &gt; &gt;                                Workstation 7<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                       The<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                      Gold<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;      Standard in Desktop Virtualization. More refined than ever.<br>
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&gt; &gt; &gt; virtualization comes the most reliable, secure way to run multiple<br>&gt; &gt; operating systems at the same time. Winner of more than 50 industry<br>&gt; &gt; awards, VMware Workstation transforms the way technical professionals<br>
&gt; &gt; develop, test, demo, and deploy software. VMware Workstation is an<br>&gt; &gt; integral component of any serious technical professional’s toolkit.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;                                        &gt;<br>
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