<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>No, you're good, Mike. It's a good suggestion, and you're following through.<br><br>Nobody expects you to buy give-aways for CLUE, but if VMware can afford to donate 'em, that will be awesome.<br><br>I hope more people will follow your good example: get involved, make suggestions, and be willing to help get their suggestions implemented.<br><br>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>tel://720.333.LANS<br>Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br><br>----- "Mike Bean" <beandaemon@gmail.com> wrote:
<br>> Sure, I already sent him a message, I'll pass along whatever the verdict turns out to be. I don't think he'll have a problem with it as long as we don't do it large volumes. I know that the managers go to VMUGs all the time, I don't see allot of functional difference between supporting community vmugs and lugs.<br>>
<br>> OK, I apologize if I spoke out of turn, I just wanted to make sure that I can't necessarily eat the cost for whoever wants one. <br>> <br>> Mike Bean<br>> <br>> <div class="gmail_quote">> On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:54 PM, David L. Willson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target="_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>></span> wrote:<br>>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">> Hit up the manager, see what he says. It would be nice to have a copy of VMWS on the schwag-shelf.<br>>
<br>> So far, that I know of, CLUE has never charged for door-prize tickets, or spent money on the give-aways. I'd like to stick to that, if possible.<br>> <br>> Currently, all funds are spent on hosting web & mail services and hardware needs of the club.<div class="im">>
<br>> <br>> David L. Willson<br>> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>> RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>> tel://720.333.LANS<br>> Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>> <br>> </div><div>
<div></div><div class="h5">> ----- "Mike Bean" <<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
<br>> > Well, I certainly wouldn't have a problem with that, and I'll help any way I can, but the main hesitation I have is that I don't work in a department that has anything at all to do with PR. We do ESX support. Not having much PR experience. I wouldn't know where to begin. By contrast, the boundaries/procedure of the friends and family discount program are established and reasonably well defined. Off-hand, I've bought 3 of my own licenses and a half dozen for various folks I know. (fusion and workstation). I don't really consider it an ethical violation as long as we don't abuse it. My sense is that 2 or 3 licenses for gifts is fine, but if my purchases add up and become excessive, it starts to border on an abuse.<br>>
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<br>> > That said, I certainly don't want to make anyone uncomfortable either. If we'd rather approach VMW directly and ask if they'd donate, I'm certainly willing to do what I can to that end either. I can probably ask at HR. Frankly, if people are upset, I'm actually willing to approach my manager and just flat ask him if he would have a problem with this. It isn't my intention to be sneaky. = )<br>>
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<br>> > Mike Bean<br>> > <br>> > <div class="gmail_quote">> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM, David "Barahon" Willson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target="_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>></span> wrote:<br>>
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<div><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">> > 1. VMWS is totally worth 300. That's what I paid.<br>> > 2. I think we're on questionable ethical ground here, so let's change strategy. Let's you and I talk with the powers that be about donating a license for schwag.<br>>
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<br>> > <font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><i><font color="#333333">Sent via David's Droid X.</font></i></span></font></div><br>> > <br>> > -----Original message-----<br>> > <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<div><div></div><div>> <div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">> > <b>From: </b>Mike Bean <<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>><b><br>> > To: </b>CLUE talk <<a href="mailto:clue-talk@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-talk@cluedenver.org</a>><b><br>>
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Sent: </b>Mon, Nov 29, 2010 16:19:36 GMT+00:00<b><br>> > Subject: </b>Re: [clue-talk] Fwd: Cyber Monday 3 Day Sale - Get Up to 50% Off<br>> > <br>> > </div><br>> > I wish. My shift recently got tweaked, I don't get into tech center<br>>
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until 8PM, by then it doesn't seem like there's much point; but I don't<br>> > mind doing it to help the cause (metaphorically speaking) as long as it<br>> > doesn't upset HR, and I don't think it will. Obviously I can't eat the<br>>
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cost, but it seems to me that if there's enough interest, it could<br>> > potentially pay for itself. Retail on workstation's ridiculous, it's<br>> > like 200 a pop, so figure, raffle tickets at maybe 5 a head, and you<br>>
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only have to sell 10 to make a profit. <br>> > <br>> > The discount program itself is a friends and family thing, I could use<br>> > the clue contact info, but then everybody would get the license every<br>> > time I bought one, so I suspect we'd have to channel it through someone<br>>
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specific, but I'm sure the details could be worked out.<br>> > <br>> > Mike Bean<br>> > <br>> > On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 09:08 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>> > > I think that's a great idea, Mike. Maybe one a month is fine, though, and very generous of you. Do you usually attend the meetings?<br>>
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> <br>> > > David L. Willson<br>> > > Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>> > > RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>> > > tel://720.333.LANS<br>> > > Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>>
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> <br>> > </div></div><div>> > ----- "Mike Bean" wrote:<br>> > > <br>> > > > At the risk of exposing myself, to potential hate, I get a pretty<br>> > > > substantial employee discount. It's like 50 bucks a license. <br>>
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> > Downside<br>> > > > is, I can't start buying them en-masse for clue members or HR will<br>> > > > come<br>> > > > down on my head. By way of compromise, if there's any real interest,<br>>
> > > I'll buy 2-3 licenses and maybe CLUE could in turn raffle them off as<br>> >
> > prizes?<br>> > > > <br>> > > > Mike Bean<br>> > > > <br>> > > > On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 06:57 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>> > > > > If you're looking for a way to run Windows on Linux, and you don't<br>>
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> > > mind using proprietary pay-ware, VMware Workstation is a pretty<br>> > > > > awesome product and they're having a sale for cyber Monday.<br>> > > > ><br>> > > > > David L. Willson<br>>
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