<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Hit up the manager, see what he says. It would be nice to have a copy of VMWS on the schwag-shelf.<br><br>So far, that I know of, CLUE has never charged for door-prize tickets, or spent money on the give-aways. I'd like to stick to that, if possible.<br><br>Currently, all funds are spent on hosting web &amp; mail services and hardware needs of the club.<br><br>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>tel://720.333.LANS<br>Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br><br>----- "Mike Bean" &lt;beandaemon@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
<br>&gt; Well, I certainly wouldn't have a problem with that, and I'll help any way I can, but the main hesitation I have is that I don't work in a department that has anything at all to do with PR.&nbsp; We do ESX support.&nbsp; Not having much PR experience.&nbsp; I wouldn't know where to begin.&nbsp; By contrast, the boundaries/procedure of the friends and family discount program are established and reasonably well defined.&nbsp;&nbsp; Off-hand, I've bought 3 of my own licenses and a half dozen for various folks I know.&nbsp; (fusion and workstation).&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't really consider it an ethical violation as long as we don't abuse it.&nbsp; My sense is that 2 or 3 licenses for gifts is fine, but if my purchases add up and become excessive, it starts to border on an abuse.<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; That said, I certainly don't want to make anyone uncomfortable either.&nbsp; If we'd rather approach VMW directly and ask if they'd donate, I'm certainly willing to do what I can to that end either.&nbsp;&nbsp; I can probably ask at HR.&nbsp; Frankly, if people are upset, I'm actually willing to approach my manager and just flat ask him if he would have a problem with this.&nbsp; It isn't my intention to be sneaky. = )<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; Mike Bean<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <div class="gmail_quote">&gt; On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 12:21 PM, David "Barahon" Willson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target="_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>&gt; <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 16px;">&gt; 1. VMWS is totally worth 300. That's what I paid.<br>&gt; 2. I think we're on questionable ethical ground here, so let's change strategy. Let's you and I talk with the powers that be about donating a license for schwag.<br>&gt; 
<br>&gt; <font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size: 14px;"><i><font color="#333333">Sent via David's Droid X.</font></i></span></font></div><br>&gt; <br>&gt; -----Original message-----<br>&gt; <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<div><div></div><div class="h5">&gt; <div style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">&gt; <b>From: </b>Mike Bean &lt;<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>&gt;<b><br>&gt; To: </b>CLUE talk &lt;<a href="mailto:clue-talk@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-talk@cluedenver.org</a>&gt;<b><br>&gt; 
Sent: </b>Mon, Nov 29, 2010 16:19:36 GMT+00:00<b><br>&gt; Subject: </b>Re: [clue-talk] Fwd: Cyber Monday 3 Day Sale - Get Up to 50% Off<br>&gt; <br>&gt; </div><br>&gt; I wish.  My shift recently got tweaked, I don't get into tech center<br>&gt; 
until 8PM, by then it doesn't seem like there's much point; but I don't<br>&gt; mind doing it to help the cause (metaphorically speaking) as long as it<br>&gt; doesn't upset HR, and I don't think it will.   Obviously I can't eat the<br>&gt; 
cost, but it seems to me that if there's enough interest, it could<br>&gt; potentially pay for itself.  Retail on workstation's ridiculous, it's<br>&gt; like 200 a pop, so figure, raffle tickets at maybe 5 a head, and you<br>&gt; 
only have to sell 10 to make a profit.  <br>&gt; <br>&gt; The discount program itself is a friends and family thing, I could use<br>&gt; the clue contact info, but then everybody would get the license every<br>&gt; time I bought one, so I suspect we'd have to channel it through someone<br>&gt; 
specific, but I'm sure the details could be worked out.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Mike Bean<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 09:08 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; I think that's a great idea, Mike. Maybe one a month is fine, though, and very generous of you. Do you usually attend the meetings?<br>&gt; 
&gt; <br>&gt; &gt; David L. Willson<br>&gt; &gt; Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>&gt; &gt; RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>&gt; &gt; tel://720.333.LANS<br>&gt; &gt; Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>&gt; 
&gt; <br>&gt; </div></div><div class="im">&gt; &gt; ----- "Mike Bean"  wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; At the risk of exposing myself, to potential hate, I get a pretty<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; substantial employee discount.  It's like 50 bucks a license. <br>&gt; 
&gt; &gt; Downside<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; is, I can't start buying them en-masse for clue members or HR will<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; come<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; down on my head.  By way of compromise, if there's any real interest,<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; I'll buy 2-3 licenses and maybe CLUE could in turn raffle them off as<br>&gt; 
&gt; &gt; prizes?<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Mike Bean<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 06:57 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; If you're looking for a way to run Windows on Linux, and you don't<br>&gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; mind using proprietary pay-ware, VMware Workstation is a pretty<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; awesome product and they're having a sale for cyber Monday.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; David L. Willson<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>&gt; 
&gt; &gt; &gt; RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; tel://720.333.LANS<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux. Get Free.<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; </div><div><div>
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