Yes! When would you be willing to present? I <i>think</i> we already have December and January covered. Just waiting to hear for sure.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:07 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dennisjperkins@comcast.net">dennisjperkins@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:#000000">From your manager's comment, I think that you can give the type of talk we want. Talk<br>
to Mike Burton about when to give a presentation.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Mike Bean" <<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: "CLUE talk" <<a href="mailto:clue-talk@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-talk@cluedenver.org</a>><br>Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 9:12:49 AM<br>Subject: Re: [clue-talk] possible VMware presentation<br>
<br><br>Let's park the idea for the moment. I don't have a good way to reach<br>Mike Burton, but it still sounds like this is a sore spot, point of some<br>discussion, and I think I can speak with some confidence to the effect<br>
that we (VMware) don't particularly want to go where we're not invited.<br><br>To illustrate, here's the last quote I got from my manager on the<br>subject<br><br>"No problem. I would say that I've seen the presentations from the SEs<br>
and they are semi technical, not sales pitches. More like feature sets<br>and how products and features work. The LUG needs to clarify what they<br>want. But it's up to them to take the next step as we're likely able to<br>
provide whatever they want, assuming that isn't something silly like<br>kernel architecture for example."<br><br>Mike Bean<br><br>(Mike Burton, on the off chance you see this, please let me know<br><a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>; we might be able to take some of the discussion<br>
off the mailing list. Quit spamming people quite so much = )<br><br>On Tue, 2010-11-30 at 20:43 -0700, David L. Willson wrote:<br>> Mike Burton is the speaker coordinator. If you can't get a hold of<br>> him, Dennis Perkins is club president. December is already booked. I<br>
> don't know what's booked for January, February, etc...<br>> <br>> David L. Willson<br>> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>> RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>> tel://720.333.LANS<br>
> Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux.<br>> <br>> ----- "Mike Bean" <<a href="mailto:beandaemon@gmail.com" target="_blank">beandaemon@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <br>> > At the risk of throwing fuel on the fire, my manager did get back to<br>
> me today. He said the sales guys are "willing to participate in the<br>> LUG, depending on the details", and he asked me for a specific<br>> point/person of contact they could contact to discuss it. So, is<br>
> there a specific person/means they should contact??<br>> > <br>> > In terms of the debate, as to what's appropriate, and what isn't, I<br>> can only speak on my own behalf, but I would think they're likely not<br>
> going to do it out of the generosity of their hearts. Even if they<br>> don't give the full-on sales pitch, they'll likely just see it as an<br>> excuse to network among like minded people, which, as long as I'm<br>
> being honest, is one of my many reasons I went to my first CLUE<br>> meeting a while ago, so I can't really point a finger at that. (no<br>> moral highground).<br>> > <br>> > I would just advocate a principal of honesty, that we describe the<br>
> group, and let them decide what kind of presentation they want to<br>> give. (perhaps nudge them towards matters technical.) Once that<br>> decision is made, make that information public. On Day X, VMware<br>
> reps will be hearing doing X presentation. If people aren't<br>> interested, or would be uncomfortable, (shrug), they don't have to<br>> come.<br>> > <br>> > For my part, I can only offer to do what I can to help both sides of<br>
> the aisle. If there are ESX/ESXi questions they can't answer, that I<br>> can, I promise not to remain shy.<br>> > <br>> > _______________________________________________ clue-talk mailing<br>> list <a href="mailto:clue-talk@cluedenver.org" target="_blank">clue-talk@cluedenver.org</a><br>
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