[CLUE-Tech] A Simpler way

[Cyberclops]

I should think simplest would mean using the least mental energy with
the least possibility of making a mistake, while achieving the greatest
reliability.  The KDE GUI method is easy except for the fact that with a
directory with a large number of files in it, it seems to lock up.  So
if the command line is not to hard to remember, and if it's more
reliable, then I would say that it is the simplest.  I notice that even
the most ardent CLI fans come up short when it comes to remembering some
certain command to do some certain task.  On the other hand a GUI is
there to see, and the "drag and drop" are common through out.  For
myself, I find even with the CLI, I like to have Konqueror open so I can
easily see the file path and file spelling (naming).

ian wrote:
> 
> In a highly complex system the "simplest way" can be defined as the way
> you know how to do it.  When there is as many ways to do something as you
> can imagine and one more, getting it done in a way you know how counts
> pretty high in my definition.
> 
> It is an academic exercise to find the way that is the simplest.  What
> criteria will it be defined to do something the simplest?  Least keystrokes?
> Least button clicks?
> 
> I routinely use both the CLI & GUI to do things.  Its all a matter of what
> I know now and what I have the time to learn.
> 
> ian
> 
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 08:49:40AM -1000, Cyberclops wrote:
> > I think you make a very good point about doing things the simplest way.
> > One of the problems I have is just understanding the command line
> > syntax.  Ideally. I would like a session with computers where a simple
> > file is created and then we learn to manipulate it with the CLI
> > interface and a variety of ways and then explore the possibility of
> > doing the same maneuvers with a GUI.  SOmetimes I believe the GUI is
> > simpler for simpler things, but I believe the CLI would be better for
> > more complex tasks.  I'm also wondering if the CLI is more error free
> > assuming you type the correct commands ion the first place.  THe reason
> > I say this is that I know for a fact that the KDE copy or move
> > operations can become overwhelmed and crash out in the middle of the
> > operation.  I doubt this happens in a CLI mode only.
> >
> > Kevin Cullis wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > I've been having a discussion with a programmer friend of mine and it's
> > > funny how we both have different views of the same problem.  I sometimes
> > > want to "cut and paste" data from the web browser into VIM in order to
> > > parse the data into useable form, such as records to be inported into a
> > > database. However, he has stated, along with other programmers I know,
> > > that I should save the file in HTML and then parse the HTML out of the
> > > file.  However, while both achieve the same results, my programming
> > > friends way takes considerably more work and knowledge than my "cut and
> > > paste" method.  In fact, all I have in my file is the data with a large
> > > number of spaces which require ONLY one command to use in order to
> > > remove the multiple spaces rather than his PERL or other method to
> > > parsing HTML tags.
> > >
> > > Why am I mentioning this?  Because most new people to Linux can be
> > > bombarded with more technical approaches to a problem when sometimes a
> > > simple problem requires a simple solution.
> > >
> > > In VIM, I type:
> > >
> > > :%s/   *//g
> > >
> > > to remove all multiple spaces leaving only my data in fields.  However,
> > > my friends approach can be used for more complex approaches to other
> > > problems which I can consider in future projects.
> > >
> > > Just a comment.
> > >
> > > Kevin
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