[CLUE-Tech] Mandrake 8.0 or SuSE 7.1?

Brandon N bneill at yahoo.com
Tue Apr 17 12:20:36 MDT 2001


YOu might want to look at www.lwn.net, go to the distributions page and
they have a pretty comprehensive list of distributions, some of them
are geared toward ease of use, some are geared toward hackers, embedded
systems, servers etc.

Brandon

--- Cyberclops <Cyberclops at hawaii.rr.com> wrote:
> I'm wondering how Mandrake 8.0 will compare to to SuSE 7.1?
> 
> 	Mandrake 7.2 is user friendly until you try to seriously use it.  I
> have had much more satisfaction with SuSE 7.1 although I see it as
> being
> overly complicated in certain respects.  I'm still looking for a
> simple
> Linux.  One that is more like the old Mac OS.  I still would like to
> see
> a discussion developed as how to go about making SuSE more user
> friendly
> for a home user system.  I don't like not have permissions to do
> things
> on my own desktop.  I see user friendliness oriented towards these
> features:
> 
> 1. Installs easily on your particular hardware.
>         SuSE 7.1 - Pass 
>         Mandrake - 7.2 fail - not good at the configure X portion
> 
> 2.  File system and disk access immediately available to the home
> user.
>         SuSE 7.1 - not so good - entire SUSE doesn't seem to follow
> conventional Linux procedures.  SuSE has their own way of doing
> things
> which may be better, but not easy for someone to understand.  For
> example manually editing the XF86Config file doesn't do anything.
>         Mandrake 7.2 - much better in this respect - Supermount disk
> mounting
> is very smooth.
> 
> 3.  Menu system easy to understand and use.
>         SuSE 7.1 - Overly complex and confusing with strange names
> such
> as
> "YaST" and "YaST2" which do different things, and have a different
> interface.
>         Mandrake 7.2 - Menu system is a disaster as menu items
> disappear.
> Drake
> Config while being central has many confusing portions which go
> beyond
> the understanding of an average computer user.
> 
> 4.  Menus and Desktop easy to configure.
>         Mandrake 7.2 - less than desirable
>         SuSE 7.1 - it works, but some KDE tools are present but
> disabled.
> SuSe
> limits configuration by tying everything up with a complicated
> permission system that I don't exactly understand.  Even root can't
> change the permissions of some items.
> 
> 5.  Package manager easy to understand.
>         SuSE 7.1 - very good in this respect
>         Mandrake 7.2 - I never understood how to use it or what the
> icons
> mean.  I could never figure out what was installed and what wasn't. 
> The
> Mandrake animated Web tutorials were a total flop as there were even
> more confusing and hard to follow as they jump forward before you can
> see and absorb what is going on.
> 
> 6.  Pleasing user interface
>         Mandrake 7.2 - Very cartoonish.  Standard program icons and
> splash
> screens changed by Mandrake - a very bad idea.
>         SuSE 7.1 - much better.  A more or less totally professional
> look
> and
> feel.
> 
> In then end, SuSE 7.1 works, and Mandrake 7.2 doesn't.  I know a lot
> of
> people think Mandrake is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I
> didn't have an overall satisfying experience with it.  Things would
> break too easily.  With SuSE 7.1 things seem very solid.
> 
> I like the concept of "Libranet" Linux it has a Mac like "Adminmenu".
> 
> Unfortunately it's not complete, but conceptually it's probably one
> of
> the best tools out there.
> 
> I am one who believes Linux could and should be easier to use.  But
> more
> thought has to be put into making it that way.  As Warren points out
> there is a difference between a professional server farm operation,
> and
> some flunky sitting at home with a single computer, and his family to
> deal with.
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