[CLUE-Tech] UPS Recommendations?

ian iguy at ionsphere.org
Fri Jul 27 08:45:05 MDT 2001


*nod*  Get the protection.  The key thought about all this in my mind is the
fact that you get what you pay for usually.  APC tends to be mega expensive
compared to some of the other models out there.  However APC is still in 
business and the batteries are replacable rather simply.  I purchased a 
couple of CyberPowers a couple of years ago and they have done wonders for
me.  However now that all 3 batteries have died I need to ship the units
back to CyberPower to replace the battery.  They pretty much consider my
UPSes to be "faulty??"  and gave me an RMA.  

Now batteries do go bad after time and do need to be replaced usually
on the order of every 18 months or so.  FYI

ian


On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 03:39:53PM +0000, jimintriglia at americanisp.net wrote:
> Hi-
> 
> Let me throw in my .02 cents in here as well. I've had an APC Back-UPS Pro 650
> for a number of years now, and it's save my butt (and equipment) more times than
> I can count. I'm on my second battery which I purchased via the APC web site.
> They sent a postage-paid label to return the old battery in, which was great!
> 
> We have frequent power outages, surges and God knows what else up here in
> Conifer, and anybody who lives in this area doesn't think twice about a UPS. (If
> they do, the lesson is fast in coming ;-).
> 
> One thing to note - ensure you get phone jack protection (if you have dialup
> access) and run the lines to the UPS then two your computer. Lost two systems a
> year back due to lightning-induced surge on the phone line. If you go cable
> modem or two-way Satellite, be sure to protect the feed into your systems.
> 
> APC also has Linux drivers/software available to support real-time UPS
> status/power reporting as well as auto-shutdown.
> 
> HTH
> 
> JimI.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > **  hello, jed - -
> > 
> >         i use the apc smartups 700.  i'm
> >     no electrical engineer (good GOD no)
> >     but the manual asserts
> > 
> >         on battery          low distortion
> >         waveshape           sine wave
> > 
> >     i don't remember what it cost me (have
> >     had it 3 or 4 yrs) but it can't have
> >     been all that much, or i wouldn't have
> >     paid it.
> >                          
> > 
> >     couple of other things i like:
> > 
> >     a few weeks ago i noticed a red light
> >     on the front panel along with the various
> >     greens.
> > 
> >     checking out the manual i found that it
> >     was the "replace battery" light.
> > 
> >     reading further i found the 800 number
> >     for t.s.  calling it and making selections
> >     from the menus i found myself connected to
> >     a company called   insight   which asserts
> >     it is the official replacement-battery
> >     vendor for apc.  they were happy to sell
> >     me a set of replacement batteries for about
> >     $80.
> > 
> >     when they got here i was able to open up
> >     the box [had never done this before] and
> >     replace the batteries with little trouble.
> > 
> >     after a few hours with no computer while
> >     the new batteries charged, i am again
> >     humming along smoothly.
> > 
> >     did a google search on    smartups    .
> >     got about 6,100 hits  (some of which,
> >     however, appear to be in  Old Finnish ).
> > 
> >     some are articles.  some are willing to
> >     sell you a smartups right on the spot.
> >     some mention   suse   and   debian  , so
> >     presumably the  "smart" feature (tells
> >     the computer to shut itself down if there's
> >     a prolonged power outage and the batteries
> >     are in danger of running out of gas) is
> >     linux-aware.
> > 
> > 
> >                      h t h,
> > 
> >                              bill
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Jed S. Baer" <thag at frii.com> wrote:
> > > After two power outages in a week, one of which
> > > cost me a motherboard,
> > > I've decided I need an UPS. Does anyone have
> > > any particular
> > > recommendations? The UPS-HOWTO seems hopelessly
> > > out-of-date for web
> > > links, anyway. And I suspect for capabilities
> > > of powerd as well. (Yeah,
> > > I'll read the powerd man page too. ;-)
> > > 
> > > Seems if I want true sinusoidal output, it's
> > > gonna really cost me. I
> > > don't suppose that's a necessity.
> > > 
> > > A few of places I've looked so far:
> > > 
> > > http://www.4ups.com/ (refurbed Deltec, unknown
> > > VA rating)
> > >
> > http://www.fentonups.com/Products/PowerPal/powerpal.html
> > > http://www.jetta-tech.com/Products_main.htm
> > >
> > http://www.baber.com/baber/products/powersupplies.htm
> > > (Optiquest?)
> > > http://www.tripplite.com/
> > > http://www.bestpower.com/ (Useless website,
> > > AFAICT)
> > > 
> > > One thing I find curious is the extreme
> > > variance in the "recommended"
> > > units given by 3 different web-based estimation
> > > programs -- in terms of
> > > the VA rating. My (admittedly lots of headroom
> > > here) PC has a 300W power
> > > supply. I haven't stuck my head behind my
> > > moniter yet to see what it
> > > wants (it's a 19" Sony). I'd like to put my
> > > alarm clock on it as well.
> > > 
> > > According to the UPS-HOWTO, APC and TrippLite
> > > aren't Free-Software
> > > friendly. Anyone know if this is still true?
> > > 
> > > TIA.
> > > Regards,
> > > jed
> > > -- 
> > > "Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering
> > > if they've made a
> > >  difference. Free Software developers don't
> > > have that problem."
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> Jim Intriglia
> IT Systems and Software Developer
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