[CLUE-Tech] Sawfish cores (or why is Gnome so borked)?

Jed S. Baer thag at frii.com
Thu Jan 3 14:40:48 MST 2002


On Thu, 3 Jan 2002 13:41:12 -0700
"Jed S. Baer" <thag at frii.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks.
> 
> Periodically, when I'm feeling insufficiently frustrated I guess, I fire
> up the Gnome desktop, just to see if I can find anything to recommend
> it.
<snip>
> So, Gnome takes a while to fire up, and starts without a WM, with a
> couple
> messages about my panel app as well. I can't reset to Sawfish in the
> control center. It times out after 10 seconds. If I open a terminal, and
> try to start Sawfish from the command line, it cores. I think it cores
> when trying to start it from Gnome, too.

Well, after much twiddling around, it turns out my librep installation
somehow got whacked. Beats me how that happened. Too bad there wasn't some
nifty error message giving me a clue.

At least rpm --verify was useful.

-- 
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 undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
 - Thomas Paine

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The Olympus C-2000 that I have supports software controlled snapshots. I set
up a simple web-cam page to test this feature at one point. I doubt you can
convince me to part with it though. And I don't know if it actually stored
the image to the flash card or just cached it internally (which may be more
or less convenient for you, depending on your needs).


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Hill [mailto:ed at eh3.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:06 AM
To: TriLUG; CLUE TECH; Boulder LUG
Subject: [lug] seeking a Kodak DC4800, DC290, DC265 or other
remote-control-able digital camera



Hi folks,

Our lab is desperately seeking a digital camera that we can control
(that is: shoot, download, delete-images-from-flash-card, and repeat)
from a computer, preferably a Linux-based machine.

In the past, I've written PERL scripts calling the OpenDigita
(http://ods.sourceforge.net) "ks" program for this purpose and it has
worked well.  More recently, I've been trying to use the jPhoto
(http://jphoto.sourceforge.net) interface to accomplish the same with
newer (DX series) Kodak cameras.  I can get downloads to work with the
DX models, but they do not support the image capture ("shoot")
functionality.  Unfortunately, it appears that the only recently
manufactured consumer-grade Kodak camera that supports this level of
functionality is the DC-4800 model which has almost entirely disappeared
from retail shelves.

So, would anyone of you consider trading one of the following models 

  - Kodak DC 4800
  - Kodak DC 290
  - Kodak DC 265

for a BRAND NEW 3.1 Mpixel Kodak DX-3900 and, potentially, some cash? 
If you have a DC-4800, we'll consider covering part of the difference in
cost.

If you have a friend with one of the above models, please pass this
email along.

thanks for your help,
Ed

ps - I'm researching the remode-control functionality of non-Kodak 
     cameras and its a lot of docs to dig through.  If anyone can 
     recommend or is even willing to swap for a model that supports 
     the computer-control functionality we need, I'd be very grateful!


-- 
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The Olympus C-2000 that I have supports software controlled snapshots. I set
up a simple web-cam page to test this feature at one point. I doubt you can
convince me to part with it though. And I don't know if it actually stored
the image to the flash card or just cached it internally (which may be more
or less convenient for you, depending on your needs).


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Hill [mailto:ed at eh3.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:06 AM
To: TriLUG; CLUE TECH; Boulder LUG
Subject: [lug] seeking a Kodak DC4800, DC290, DC265 or other
remote-control-able digital camera



Hi folks,

Our lab is desperately seeking a digital camera that we can control
(that is: shoot, download, delete-images-from-flash-card, and repeat)
from a computer, preferably a Linux-based machine.

In the past, I've written PERL scripts calling the OpenDigita
(http://ods.sourceforge.net) "ks" program for this purpose and it has
worked well.  More recently, I've been trying to use the jPhoto
(http://jphoto.sourceforge.net) interface to accomplish the same with
newer (DX series) Kodak cameras.  I can get downloads to work with the
DX models, but they do not support the image capture ("shoot")
functionality.  Unfortunately, it appears that the only recently
manufactured consumer-grade Kodak camera that supports this level of
functionality is the DC-4800 model which has almost entirely disappeared
from retail shelves.

So, would anyone of you consider trading one of the following models 

  - Kodak DC 4800
  - Kodak DC 290
  - Kodak DC 265

for a BRAND NEW 3.1 Mpixel Kodak DX-3900 and, potentially, some cash? 
If you have a DC-4800, we'll consider covering part of the difference in
cost.

If you have a friend with one of the above models, please pass this
email along.

thanks for your help,
Ed

ps - I'm researching the remode-control functionality of non-Kodak 
     cameras and its a lot of docs to dig through.  If anyone can 
     recommend or is even willing to swap for a model that supports 
     the computer-control functionality we need, I'd be very grateful!


-- 
Edward H. Hill III, PhD
Post-Doctoral Researcher    |  Email:    <ed at eh3.com>, <ehill at mines.edu>
Division of ESE             |  URL:      http://www.eh3.com
Colorado School of Mines    |  Phone:    303-273-3483
Golden, CO  80401           |  Fax:      303-273-3311

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The Olympus C-2000 that I have supports software controlled snapshots. I set
up a simple web-cam page to test this feature at one point. I doubt you can
convince me to part with it though. And I don't know if it actually stored
the image to the flash card or just cached it internally (which may be more
or less convenient for you, depending on your needs).


-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Hill [mailto:ed at eh3.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 11:06 AM
To: TriLUG; CLUE TECH; Boulder LUG
Subject: [lug] seeking a Kodak DC4800, DC290, DC265 or other
remote-control-able digital camera



Hi folks,

Our lab is desperately seeking a digital camera that we can control
(that is: shoot, download, delete-images-from-flash-card, and repeat)
from a computer, preferably a Linux-based machine.

In the past, I've written PERL scripts calling the OpenDigita
(http://ods.sourceforge.net) "ks" program for this purpose and it has
worked well.  More recently, I've been trying to use the jPhoto
(http://jphoto.sourceforge.net) interface to accomplish the same with
newer (DX series) Kodak cameras.  I can get downloads to work with the
DX models, but they do not support the image capture ("shoot")
functionality.  Unfortunately, it appears that the only recently
manufactured consumer-grade Kodak camera that supports this level of
functionality is the DC-4800 model which has almost entirely disappeared
from retail shelves.

So, would anyone of you consider trading one of the following models 

  - Kodak DC 4800
  - Kodak DC 290
  - Kodak DC 265

for a BRAND NEW 3.1 Mpixel Kodak DX-3900 and, potentially, some cash? 
If you have a DC-4800, we'll consider covering part of the difference in
cost.

If you have a friend with one of the above models, please pass this
email along.

thanks for your help,
Ed

ps - I'm researching the remode-control functionality of non-Kodak 
     cameras and its a lot of docs to dig through.  If anyone can 
     recommend or is even willing to swap for a model that supports 
     the computer-control functionality we need, I'd be very grateful!


-- 
Edward H. Hill III, PhD
Post-Doctoral Researcher    |  Email:    <ed at eh3.com>, <ehill at mines.edu>
Division of ESE             |  URL:      http://www.eh3.com
Colorado School of Mines    |  Phone:    303-273-3483
Golden, CO  80401           |  Fax:      303-273-3311

GnuPG public key:  http://www.eh3.com/eh3.gpg



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