[clue-tech] Bleepin' Memory
Keith Hellman
khellman at mcprogramming.com
Mon Jan 31 12:00:07 MST 2005
Hello all:
I'm looking for some advice on the next-best-step in a hardware
diagnosis.
A little more than a year ago I bought a Gigabyte 865PE motherboard, a
P4, and a 512MB DDR ram for a new machine. It has in general performed
well. Of particular annoyance, however, was that I was never able to
successfully backup to my DVDRAM drive. Kept getting corrupt BZIP files
that I could not fully decompress. Oh well, I thought, my drive is
going on the fritz (it is by now several years old) and I adopted other
backup solutions.
A couple weeks back I'm backing up and bzip segfaults. Amazingly, it
regurgitates a message saying (paraphrased)
This is not a bzip bug. You probably have subtle memory corruption
which other programs may ignore (or not even notice) but bzip is
sensitive to minor bit twiddles - so we crash.
We repeat - this is not a bzip bug. Go fix your memory.
I have to admit I was pretty astounded. It so happens that about the
same time I was doing some big GIMP work & I had noticed the GIMP
crashing occasionally, which certainly is *not* what I'm used to.
So. I whip out the ol' memtest86+ program (http://www.memtest86.com)
and after an hour or so it started to find errors. I chide myself that
this is what I get for skimping and buying non-kensington memory, order
myself a new (Kensington this time) module, and wait.
The memory arrived the other day, I slap it in, figure I'll run
memtest86+ again just for giggles and, you guessed it, memmory errors
again.
The specific tests that are failing are #3 (about 25% of the time), #4
(about 75% of the time), and 1 #2 failure out of the 60 errors. Details
of these tests are at
http://www.memtest86.com/#details
it seems I have confirmed 'subtle & data sensitive errors'. I would
also point out that memtest86+ can go through multiple passes *without*
any errors and that the memory location reported is inconsistent. My
fear is that I have a flaky mobo or p4 cache and this is why I pose
these questions to the group:
- has anyone experienced a similar problem with memory?
- ... and if so how did you determine the culprit?
I don't like the idea of having to start swapping out either the
processor or the mobo (particularly since I have neither the spares or
the free time...)
- is there a store that could thoroughly test the p4?
- the mobo?
- what type of cost am I looking at?
- can anyone recommend a particular place?
Thanks in advance for everyone's help.
--
Keith Hellman #include <disclaimer.h>
khellman at mcprogramming.com from disclaimer import standard
public key @ www.mcprogramming.com
"I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy
me."
-- Noel Coward
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