[clue-tech] how much room?

[David L. Willson]

I assume you're using Visio for network drawing.  On the Free side, there is dia.  It sucks a little, but I've used it successfully for several network drawings.  Dia doesn't pick up your old Visio drawings, though, so you'll want either to re-save them into a portable format, or use vsdump to convert them to XML.  I haven't tried vsdump yet, but if you'll send me a Visio 200[023] document, I will, and I'll report back.

Also, I guess Wine does Visio now.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=303925

Also also wic, Hotmail sucks.  You come to me, I give you good mail.  Zimbra.  Oooh, it's so nice...  :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Kuykendall" <peterkuykendall at hotmail.com>
To: "CLUE tech" <clue-tech at cluedenver.org>
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 10:45:38 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Re: [clue-tech] how much room?

Yeah I get that all the time.  Mostly it's the whitelist and also inertia. 
Plus chicken and egg; as long as I need an XP VM for *something*, it's easy 
to keep Hotmail going via OE.  The moment that there is a viable Visio 
replacement I'll have lost my only real reason for running the XP VM, and 
that's when I'll almost certainly pull the pin on Hotmail.

My most useful email account is at Hushmail.  However, I'm not at all 
convinced that their buisness model is viable over the long haul, else I 
would have migrated entirely to that already.

- Pete


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Fierro" <miguelito at biffster.org>
To: <clue-tech at cluedenver.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [clue-tech] how much room?


> On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:47:22 -0700
> "Peter Kuykendall" <peterkuykendall at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I was driven to this solution due to MS' most recent breakage of their
>> Hotmail web interface with non-MS browsers.  I've been using various
>> kluges under Ubuntu for some years now (currently stable hotsmtp and
>> hotpop, buggy Thunderbird webmail), but there's a lot of dark talk about
>> MS scheming to break those in the near future.  So I threw in the towel
>> and started running the XP VM with OE.  It actually works perfectly.  I
>
> I am sure you are expecting this question. I'll be the first to ask: why 
> keep a hotmail account? Why not switch to something that uses standard 
> protocols, such as pop and imap?
>
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