[clue-tech] upstart

[dennisjperkins at comcast.net]

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Nate Duehr <nate at natetech.com>
> Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> 
> > Sorry, I'm not an admin.  I program PLC's. :)
> 
> Smart guy.  Staying down "there" with the hardware means your bugs are 
> your own.

Yep.  And a bug means a quick call from the customer.


> > Upstart's job files might be simpler than regular bootscripts.  That's
> > why I might install it and play with it to see how good and easy it
> > actually is.  Or how many problems it has.
> 
> Ever seen software WITHOUT problems?  :-)  SvsVinit had MOST of the crud 
> worked out of it and focused on one small job.  Not twenty.  Complexity 
> breeds bugs.

Not unless it's a "Hello world" command, and sometimes not even then. :)

> > Think about it.  They have a common printing library, or it's
> > incorporated into a bigger library, so every program can provide the
> > same interface instead of reinventing the wheel.  The same is true for
> > fonts, window layout, widgets...  Now why did I even mention
> > desktops? :)
> 
> They are both using the SAME common printing library, aren't they? 
> (CUPS)  CUPS was probably more a "good thing" than bad.  GNOME/KDE still 
> fighting over the desktop is retarded.

That is probably true now.  But it used to be lp or lpng.


> With RH still skipping straight to a run-level without running anything 
> in the preceding runlevels which it's done for years, instead of doing 
> what the commerical Unix's did at the time... proceed up THROUGH the run 
> levels... (sigh)... even SysVinit had to be "different" than everything 
> else out there first...

Doesn't Debian do the same thing?