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I think it's very appropriate inasmuch as computers collectively consume
great amounts of energy.
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<p>"David L. Willson" wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE> <span class=661220218-24052001><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#000080">The
politics, the stance, the advantages and disadvantages of each side of
this discussion... are entirely irrelevant.</font></font></span><span class=661220218-24052001></span><span class=661220218-24052001><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#000080">This
list is not for political discussions; it's for Linux, which is arguably
politics and/or religion of it's own. Nonetheless, real politics
and real religion, inasmuch an "other" side is defined and condemned, is
entirely inappropriate to this forum, until George W. starts actively promoting
Linux, or Linus Torvalds starts discussing his faith, or lack thereof,
and how it affects product design, or something like that there...
Politics and religion are NOT relevant to this list.</font></font></span><span class=661220218-24052001></span><span class=661220218-24052001><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#000080">Now,
unless you want a discussion of my faith in your inbox, please keep the
discussion of your politics out of mine. And no, I don't particularly
care what the stance is. Keep the politics off the Linux-list.</font></font></span><span class=661220218-24052001></span><span class=661220218-24052001><font face="Bookman Old Style"><font color="#000080">I'll
even go so far as to say, "Post what you like, but start the subject-line
with 'OT:'" so the rest of us know that you're off on some friggin' tangent...</font></font></span><span class=661220218-24052001></span>
<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr"><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1>-----Original
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<br><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>From:</b> clue-tech-admin@clue.denver.co.us
[<A HREF="mailto:clue-tech-admin@clue.denver.co.us">mailto:clue-tech-admin@clue.denver.co.us</A>]<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Rundle</font></font>
<br><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 24, 2001
11:48 AM</font></font>
<br><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>To:</b> clue-tech@clue.denver.co.us</font></font>
<br><font face="Tahoma"><font size=-1><b>Subject:</b> RE: [CLUE-Tech] Fwd:
voluntary blackout [thought this was a neat idea]</font></font>
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<p><font size=-1>Whoa, somebody needs to relax. While I agree that
this post was not necessarily appropriate for this mailing list, it is
not going to upset me seeing it here. As far as taking things for
granted, that is exactly what we do with everything. We take our
technology for granted, but we also take our environment for granted.
I believe its a great idea for everybody to take 3 hours out of their
day to experience what its like to live without electricity, especially
if it allows them to see that there are other things that can be just as
fulfilling as watching tv or surfing the net. Just because our economy
depends on energy doesn't mean we shouldn't seek to conserve it, and find
alternative sources of it.</font>
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<p><font size=-1>John Rundle</font>
<br><font size=-1>Software Engineer</font>
<br><font size=-1>Reason, Inc.</font>
<br><font size=-1>720-747-8697</font>
<br><font size=-1>jrundle@reasoninc.com</font>
<br><font size=-1>www.reasoninc.com</font>
<p><font size=-1>-----Original Message-----</font>
<br><font size=-1>From: Jim Ockers [<a href="mailto:ockers@ockers.net">mailto:ockers@ockers.net</a>]</font>
<br><font size=-1>Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:50 AM</font>
<br><font size=-1>To: clue-tech@clue.denver.co.us</font>
<br><font size=-1>Subject: Re: [CLUE-Tech] Fwd: voluntary blackout [thought
this was a</font>
<br><font size=-1>neat idea]</font>
<p><font size=-1>OK, this rubbed me the wrong way. Why is this even
on the clue-tech</font>
<br><font size=-1>mailing list?</font>
<p><font size=-1><FLAME></font>
<p><font size=-1>This is inappropriate material for the clue-tech mailing
list, and</font>
<br><font size=-1>furthermore is indicative of people who have not fully
though through</font>
<br><font size=-1>the matter of how our economy depends on the availability
of energy,</font>
<br><font size=-1>and how the federal government cannot make you use less
energy any</font>
<br><font size=-1>more than they can force you to eat healthy food, exercise,
or stay</font>
<br><font size=-1>out of debt.</font>
<p><font size=-1>I invite you to move to a third-world country where there
are fewer</font>
<br><font size=-1>evil companies and corporations who exploit the Earth's
resources.</font>
<br><font size=-1>And while you are going you should travel there using
only home-made</font>
<br><font size=-1>and human-powered transportation. Don't pack your
bags in any</font>
<br><font size=-1>suitcases made of metal or synthetic materials - use
a burlap bag</font>
<br><font size=-1>or something.</font>
<p><font size=-1>Good luck getting clean water, good healthcare, food,
and so forth</font>
<br><font size=-1>in your new country.</font>
<p><font size=-1></FLAME></font>
<p><font size=-1>Or perhaps were you taking your nice home, clean water,
car(s),</font>
<br><font size=-1>roads, healthcare, and so forth for granted, even though
the</font>
<br><font size=-1>technology and materials are brought to you by corporations
who</font>
<br><font size=-1>exploit and "misuse" natural resources? And the
fact that your</font>
<br><font size=-1>home is heated in the winter and perhaps cooled in the
summer?</font>
<p><font size=-1>Make sure you are not taking a bunch of stuff for granted
before</font>
<br><font size=-1>you make political statements of this nature in the future.</font>
<p><font size=-1>> > > >This could be fun if enough people participate!</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > ></font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > > >ROLL YOUR OWN BLACK OUT</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > > >THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > > JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > > 7 - 10 pm worldwide, all time zones</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >---------------------------------------------------</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies
and lack of</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative
fuels,</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on
the first day of</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >Summer, June 21 at 7 pm - 10 pm in any time
zone</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >(this will roll it across the planet).</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > ></font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >It's a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn
out your lights</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >from 7 pm - 10 pm (your local time) on June
21. Unplug</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >whatever you can unplug in your house. Light
a candle for</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >the Sun, kiss, make love, play games, tell ghost
stories,</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >do something instead of watching television,</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >have fun in the dark.</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > ></font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >Forward this email as widely as possible, to
your government</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >representatives and environmental contacts.
Let them know</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >we want global education, participation and
funding in</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >conservation, efficiency and alternative energy
efforts --</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >and an end to over exploitation and misuse of
the Earth's</font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >resources.> ></font>
<br><font size=-1>> > > > >*********</font>
<br><font size=-1>> ></font>
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