<html><head></head><body>As far as I'm concerned M$ is guily until they prove
themselves innocent.&nbsp; However, a law suit is not likely to be fruitful, but
a club complaint to the Justice Department may be in order and actually do
some good.&nbsp; The bottom line is that this is just one more example of M$ abusing
its monopoly postition.&nbsp; And, I for one don't like it.<br>
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Brandon N wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20010709170828.41605.qmail@web11507.mail.yahoo.com"><pre wrap="">We should probably do a lot more research before we jump in to<br>something.  What exactly are the grounds for a lawsuit, and does the<br>fact that it's a UK website make a difference, and did MS make the<br>website, or just the software behind it. Are there any technical<br>reasons for not giving access to linux?<br><br>Brandon<br>--- Cyberclops <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com">&lt;Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br></pre>
  <blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Jeffery Cann's wife is an attorney.  Let's get the ball rolling.<br><br><br>Richard Knechtel wrote:<br><br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">There is a simple solution :^)  Bring a class action lawsuit<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">against <br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">M$ by ALL Linux users. however many millions there are. I am sure<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">you <br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">could find some attorney that wouod take it on if nothing else for<br></pre></blockquote><pre wrap="">the <br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">big $$$$ he might be able to get out of it. :^)<br><br><br>At 06:52 AM 7/8/01 -0600, you wrote:<br><br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Opera reports itself as IE 5, but it doesn't work at this site.  I<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">don't care about accessing the site!
, but I do care about M$<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">bumping <br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">off Linux.  I find it highly unethical, and I sincerely feel the <br>weight of the club should be brought to bear on M$.  We use Linux,<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">but we need to do more than that,  When we see abusive dishonest <br>unethical practices by a convicted monopolist, we need to report <br>their continued wrong doing to authorities that might be able to <br>bring more pressure on M$ to act responsibly.<br><br><br>Brandon N wrote:<br><br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">The reason you can't go farther is that anonymizer disables<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">javascript.<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">isn't there one of the browsers that will let y!
ou forge all the<br>headers, including OS type?<br><br>Brandon<br>--- Cyberclops <br><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com">&lt;mailto:Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com&gt;</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com">&lt;Cyberclops@hawaii.rr.com&gt;</a><br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">wrote:<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Can you get passed the first page?  I just tried you method and<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">it<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">let<br>me see the first page, but nothing more.  M$ is really a big<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">bunch of<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><bl!
ockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">$OBs in my opinion.<br><br><br>Brandon N wrote:<br><br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">I can't access it on a Sun box using netscape, but I can pull<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">it up<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap=""><br>by<br><br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">going to <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.anonymizer.com">&lt;http://www.anonymizer.com&gt;</a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.anonymizer.com">www.anonymizer.com</a> first.<br><br>Brandon<br>--- Cyberclops <br><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cyberclops@techangle.com">&lt;mailto:Cyberclops@techangle.com&gt;</a><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Cyberclops@techangle.com">&lt;Cyberclops@techangle.com&gt;</a><br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></block!
quote></blockquote><pre wrap="">wrote:<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">Can anybody access this website using Linux?  It's a UK<br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap="">government<br></pre><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><pre wrap="">site.<br><br><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.gateway.gov.uk/">&lt;http://www.gateway.gov.uk/&gt;</a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.gateway.gov.uk/">http://www.gateway.gov.uk/</a><br><br>People say the site was buit by M$.<br>___________!<br>____________________________________<br>CLUE-Tech mailing list<br><br></pre></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><pre wrap=""><a cla!
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