> Did you open them up and see if you could get a substitute battery > locally that would It turns out that almost all UPSes use one or more 12 volt deep-cycle sealed batteries. If you don't mind doing the wiring yourself, you can substitute 12V marine batteries (about $65) for the batteries in your UPS. The trickle-charger will charge the marine battery in the same way it charged the original UPS battery. Be careful that you get the right number of volts that the UPS uses. The APC Smart-UPS 700, for instance, uses two 12 volt batteries in series for its 24-volt system. To replace its batteries, you would need two 12 volt marine batteries also wired in series. The added benefit of using large marine batteries is that you get much more Ampere-Hours out of the big battery than you would get out of the small batteries that the UPSes usually ship with. The drawback is that the UPS assembly now has two or more parts since the batteries won't fit in the case, and it also becomes EXTREMELY heavy and unwieldy. You can't use automotive 12V batteries in a UPS because the auto- motive batteries do not tolerate being fully drained of charge very well. The marine deep-cycle batteries are designed to work even if they get fully drained of charge. In terms of extended run-time, an APC Smart-UPS with the OEM batt- eries might run for 15-35 minutes under full load, but might run for 2-3 hours under full load with the large marine batteries. Hope this helps. -- Jim Ockers (ockers@ockers.net) Ask me about Linux! Contact info: please see http://www.ockers.net/ Fight Spam! Join CAUCE (Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial Email) at http://www.cauce.org/ .