<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>It's for our equivalent of a car enthusiast, who spends hours and hours souping up and customizing his car. Nothing wrong with that; just recognize the fact.<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Nate Duehr" <nate@natetech.com><br>To: "CLUE technical discussion" <clue-tech@cluedenver.org><br>Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 12:18:19 PM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain<br>Subject: Re: [clue-tech] Gentoo<br><br>Been there, done that... have the "I was a short-lived Gentoo fanboi"<br>sticker and logbook sign-off.<br><br>It may be a few percentage points faster than the same apps compiled<br>without optimizations, but the time you'll waste constantly re-building<br>for security patches for everything under the Sun, will eat any<br>productivity gains you think you'll get from it.<br><br>Cheaper/faster to just put a faster CPU in the machine(s). Seriously. <br><br>Oh and like everything else, sooner or later someone makes a mistake on<br>the dev team. In packaged distros this usually means the package won't<br>install. On a distro that requires you rebuild all dependencies<br>(sometimes), sometimes the broken part is an install script that totally<br>screws up multiple things on the system.<br><br>Gentoo is for people who like to waste large amounts of time. At the<br>end of the day, if you wanna get something actually done -- stick with a<br>pre-built binary-based distro.<br><br>My opinion, anyway...<br><br>--<br> Nate Duehr<br> nate@natetech.com<br><br>On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:33 -0700, "Jason Ash" <wizardofki@gmail.com><br>wrote:<br>> Hi,<br>> <br>> As some of you know, I tried out LFS last fall. While this was a great<br>> learning experience, sorting out and installing all of the<br>> dependencies for things like KDE was a headache. Not to mention I<br>> couldn't get KDE to work. Four valid reasons to do LFS (IMHO) are:<br>> 1) The learning experience (the best reason)<br>> 2) Specific custom requirements (not me)<br>> 3) Exercising technical know-how (not yet there)<br>> 4) Micromanagement of your OS (I won't)<br>> <br>> I remember someone saying at one of our meetings that he uses Gentoo<br>> because it's optimized and he never has to upgrade (since portage is<br>> always up-to-date). So, I just got finished installing the Gentoo base<br>> system, and I'm installing the KDE4 meta-package. The nice thing about<br>> Gentoo is that it automatically downloads all the needed dependencies<br>> in addition to the requested package and compiles them from source.<br>> I'm using -O2 and pentium4 optimizations. So far, KDE4 in its entirety<br>> has taken 26 hours to download and compile. I'll let you know how it<br>> goes and if it's faster.<br>> <br>> Thanks,<br>> Jason Ash<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> clue-tech mailing list<br>> clue-tech@cluedenver.org<br>> http://www.cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue-tech<br>_______________________________________________<br>clue-tech mailing list<br>clue-tech@cluedenver.org<br>http://www.cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue-tech<br></div></body></html>