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Thu Apr 7 16:02:14 MDT 2011

I haven't used Gimp in a long time so I don't know if it will do it or not.

The best tool I've ever used for putting text in a circle was Adobe Illustrator back in my graphic design days.

Photoshop would do it but it would pretty manual and have to be done character by character. I do have Photoshop and might be persuaded to do it for you. :-)

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: gnome shell impressions? (Charles Burton)
   2. Re: gnome shell impressions? (Mike Bean)
   3. Re: gnome shell impressions? (Will)
   4.  [advice] (Bruce Ediger)
   5. Re: [advice] (David L. Willson)
   6. Re: [advice] (Michael J. Hammel)
   7. Re: [advice] (Philipp Giddings)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 15:44:40 -0600
From: Charles Burton <charles.d.burton at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] gnome shell impressions?
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It's not too bad.  Takes a little getting used to though.
On Apr 6, 2011 7:50 AM, "Mike Bean" <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looks as if Gnome shell may have finally hit:
> *http://tinyurl.com/3qcqsy2*
> *
> *
> If it's not out of line, I just thought I'd ask if anyone's tried it, and
> get a sense for what the prevailing public impressions are? Worth a
> download?
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Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:13:24 -0600
From: Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] gnome shell impressions?
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I haven't found a way to install it yet if you're not using one of the
downloadable live iso's on the gnome3 site,  just says it'll be available
through your distro.  Well, that, and apparently there's a PPA for the
people in the ubuntu beta program.   Is there something obvious I'm missing
as to how to obtain it?

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Charles Burton
<charles.d.burton at gmail.com>wrote:

> It's not too bad.  Takes a little getting used to though.
> On Apr 6, 2011 7:50 AM, "Mike Bean" <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Looks as if Gnome shell may have finally hit:
> > *http://tinyurl.com/3qcqsy2*
> > *
> > *
> > If it's not out of line, I just thought I'd ask if anyone's tried it, and
> > get a sense for what the prevailing public impressions are? Worth a
> > download?
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 09:07:42 -0600
From: Will <will.sterling at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] gnome shell impressions?
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http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell#Building

On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:

> I haven't found a way to install it yet if you're not using one of the
> downloadable live iso's on the gnome3 site,  just says it'll be available
> through your distro.  Well, that, and apparently there's a PPA for the
> people in the ubuntu beta program.   Is there something obvious I'm missing
> as to how to obtain it?
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Charles Burton <charles.d.burton at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> It's not too bad.  Takes a little getting used to though.
>> On Apr 6, 2011 7:50 AM, "Mike Bean" <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Looks as if Gnome shell may have finally hit:
>> > *http://tinyurl.com/3qcqsy2*
>> > *
>> > *
>> > If it's not out of line, I just thought I'd ask if anyone's tried it,
>> and
>> > get a sense for what the prevailing public impressions are? Worth a
>> > download?
>>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 09:59:03 -0600 (MDT)
From: Bruce Ediger <bediger at stratigery.com>
Subject: [clue]  [advice]
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Hi.  I'm looking to do one of those "joke" federal agency seals.
You know, like an NSA seal modified to have parts of it "redacted".

For my particular joke, the FBI logo is almost perfect.  But...

One of the things I want to do to it is change the agency name.  I can
rearrange the letters of "FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION" into my joke
agency name. That agency name appears going around the seal image in a
circle.  The 'F' in "FEDERAL" appears at about 9 o'clock on the seal,
and the 'N' ending "INVESTIGATION" appears just before 3 o'clock.

I need a graphics editor that can cut letters out of the curved
image of "FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION", and rotate them so
I can make the agency name some punny thing.

What's the easiest to learn program to do this type of editing?
I'm a total beginner, no graphics design experience at all.
Naturally, I need a Linux program, as that's all I have running
at home, Arch and Slackware. And DD-WRT, but I wouldn't do this on
my wireless router.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 10:16:01 -0600 (MDT)
From: "David L. Willson" <DLWillson at TheGeek.NU>
Subject: Re: [clue] [advice]
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gimp can select in a variety of ways, and can cut, copy, and paste selections, and can process selections in a wide, wide variety of ways, including rotation.

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Subject: [clue]  [advice]

Hi.  I'm looking to do one of those "joke" federal agency seals.
You know, like an NSA seal modified to have parts of it "redacted".

For my particular joke, the FBI logo is almost perfect.  But...

One of the things I want to do to it is change the agency name.  I can
rearrange the letters of "FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION" into my joke
agency name. That agency name appears going around the seal image in a
circle.  The 'F' in "FEDERAL" appears at about 9 o'clock on the seal,
and the 'N' ending "INVESTIGATION" appears just before 3 o'clock.

I need a graphics editor that can cut letters out of the curved
image of "FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION", and rotate them so
I can make the agency name some punny thing.

What's the easiest to learn program to do this type of editing?
I'm a total beginner, no graphics design experience at all.
Naturally, I need a Linux program, as that's all I have running
at home, Arch and Slackware. And DD-WRT, but I wouldn't do this on
my wireless router.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:30:00 -0600
From: "Michael J. Hammel" <mjhammel at graphics-muse.org>
Subject: Re: [clue] [advice]
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On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:16 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:
> gimp can select in a variety of ways, and can cut, copy, and paste
> selections, and can process selections in a wide, wide variety of
> ways, including rotation.

Depends a little on how much you want to play with it.  GIMP 2.6
(current stable) can rotate rendered letters but its much harder to work
with individual vector versions of those letters.  Rotating rendered
letters will, with multiple transformations, reduce the quality of the
rendering.

GIMP 2.6 has a "Text Circle" plugin that can render text along a
circular path, but you can't play much with the shape of the circle or
the letter positioning along that path.

GIMP 2.7 (development version, planned 2011-10-23 release of 2.8) does a
little better with vector text though its still not particularly easy to
do transformations on individual letters.  It has a built-in Text along
a Path feature that allows you to specify an arbitrary vector path along
with creating text that is also generated as vector paths.  This allows
you to resize and transform the text in a manner that is a bit easier
and more flexible than GIMP 2.6.  But it is still a little
less-than-easy to work with.

Better still, for doing text along paths and transformations, is
Inkspace.  It's a fully vector tool designed for this type of layout
work.  I don't use it much, however. 

Can't say which is easier to use.  GIMP has lots of printed books.
Inkscape doesn't have many, if any at all.  Neither will get you a
point-click-rotate solution.  You're gonna have to work at it a little.

-- 
Michael J. Hammel                         Principal Software Engineer
Mike.Hammel at coloradoengineeringinc.com    http://coloradoengineeringinc.com

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:54:46 -0600
From: Philipp Giddings <webmaster at continentalbook.com>
Subject: Re: [clue] [advice]
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perhaps this tutorial 
<http://gimp-tutorials.net/gimp-text-to-path-tutorial>might help

If you can find the same font them just text to path and cover existing text
Philipp

On 4/7/2011 10:30 AM, Michael J. Hammel wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-04-07 at 10:16 -0600, David L. Willson wrote:
>> gimp can select in a variety of ways, and can cut, copy, and paste
>> selections, and can process selections in a wide, wide variety of
>> ways, including rotation.
> Depends a little on how much you want to play with it.  GIMP 2.6
> (current stable) can rotate rendered letters but its much harder to work
> with individual vector versions of those letters.  Rotating rendered
> letters will, with multiple transformations, reduce the quality of the
> rendering.
>
> GIMP 2.6 has a "Text Circle" plugin that can render text along a
> circular path, but you can't play much with the shape of the circle or
> the letter positioning along that path.
>
> GIMP 2.7 (development version, planned 2011-10-23 release of 2.8) does a
> little better with vector text though its still not particularly easy to
> do transformations on individual letters.  It has a built-in Text along
> a Path feature that allows you to specify an arbitrary vector path along
> with creating text that is also generated as vector paths.  This allows
> you to resize and transform the text in a manner that is a bit easier
> and more flexible than GIMP 2.6.  But it is still a little
> less-than-easy to work with.
>
> Better still, for doing text along paths and transformations, is
> Inkspace.  It's a fully vector tool designed for this type of layout
> work.  I don't use it much, however.
>
> Can't say which is easier to use.  GIMP has lots of printed books.
> Inkscape doesn't have many, if any at all.  Neither will get you a
> point-click-rotate solution.  You're gonna have to work at it a little.
>
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