[clue] [hardware] Erratic boot behavior

Will will.sterling at gmail.com
Thu Jul 7 20:23:04 MDT 2011


I agree it sounds like a bad power supply.

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM, chris fedde <chris at fedde.us> wrote:

> Try a new power supply.  If that does not solve it then you're pretty
> much on target for a new system,  If you have to go for a new
> motherboard/cpu/ram you'll need a new power supply anyway.
>
> JMHO
> chris
>
> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Matt Gushee <matt at gushee.net> wrote:
> > Hi all--
> >
> > Hope everybody is well!
> >
> > I am having an issue with my desktop Linux box--though I think it is
> > really strictly a hardware or firmware problem. Anyway, before I go out
> > and spend a bunch of money based on my guesses, I thought I'd check with
> > you knowledgeable folks and see if anyone has encountered this before.
> >
> > First of all, the computer in question is, hmm, less than
> > top-of-the-line. And it's quite old. The case is a Gateway mid-tower
> > that I bought used about 7 years ago, and I think it was made in about
> > 1998. AFAIK the power supply is original equipment. The motherboard is
> > an ECS model that I got for cheap (closeout, I think) at MicroCenter.
> > Cheap, but the reviews I read said it was good for the money. AMD Athlon
> > 1.8Gig CPU, SiS chipset (forget the model #). So maybe it's time to
> > upgrade anyway. But if there's reason to believe that the problem is
> > something else, then I'd like to take care of that something else first.
> >
> > So anyway: the machine is now having serious trouble booting up after
> > being powered off. This started a long time ago, but it was just a mild
> > nuisance at first, gradually developing into a major problem. The
> > behavior has also been very inconsistent: sometimes the system will boot
> > on the first try. But when it doesn't, here's how it goes, more or less:
> >
> >  * I hit the power button.
> >
> >  * LEDs light up on the front of the case. The power-on LED will be
> >  steadily lit, and the CD-RW drive LED
> >   starts to flicker, as does the hard drive LED. Sometimes the DVD-RW
> >   drive LED will start to flash
> >   and/or there will be disk-spinning noises. These are good signs,
> >   usually predicting a successful
> >   bootup.
> >
> >  * Usually, the ViewSonic parrots appear at the upper left of the
> >  monitor, then disappear--followed by
> >   the words "No Signal" at the center of the monitor.
> >
> >  * Sometimes the keyboard LEDs flash. That's also a good sign.
> >
> >  * After a period of time (maybe 10 seconds, maybe 5 minutes), the POST
> >  screen appears. Then, if I'm
> >   lucky, the 2 hard drives are listed on screen. Often, the POST screen
> >   will just flash on and off,
> >   and it all starts again. The general trend is that it is taking
> >   longer to get to the POST screen,
> >   and it flashes on and off more times before a successful boot.
> >   Sometimes it won't POST at all. In
> >   those cases the CD-RW LED and the hard drive LED just keep steadily
> >   flickering, there are no sounds
> >   of moving parts, and pressing and holding the power switch fails to
> >   turn the machine off. So my only
> >   recourse is to cut off the power by switching off the power strip or
> >   pulling the plug (yikes!).
> >
> > Now, a couple of facts that seems significant here are that (a) once
> > Linux is booted, the system runs very reliably, with no random failures;
> > and (b) as far as I can remember the system has never failed to boot
> > once the hard drives are detected. At least, I am assuming that when the
> > POST screen displays the hard drive info, that means that the drives
> > have just been detected. If that is the case, it seems likely that the
> > problem has nothing whatever to do with the OS.
> >
> > BTW, In case it matters, I have upgraded the primary hard drive at least
> > once, probably twice, or maybe even thrice. As far as I can remember
> > those upgrades had no effect on this problem.
> >
> > So, anybody have an idea about this? Any clues greatly appreciated.
> >
> > --
> > Matt Gushee
> > matt at gushee.net
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