[clue] [TALK] Ulitimate home for the CLUE Website

[Silas Martinez]

I rarely speak up here, and I'm not volunteering, so take my opinion for
nothing more than that. But, my opinion is that drupal is a lot of extra
headroom for little extra benefit. The cost benefit ratio doesn't seem to
add up.

I would suggest a compromise - I light, fast main page (or pages) with the
most relevant info, linking to drupal content for things that may be more
dynamic (calendars, scheduling, etc). This will ease load on drupal, making
the content it is serving faster, and will put at ease those who have the
drupal concerns (myself amongst them). If the drupal issues are resolved
enough that performance is equal to static-ish content, hey, let it take
over if that makes sense.

Secondly, in response to the email vs forum debate, if this moves to a
forum, you'll almost certainly never hear from me (and, I imagine, many
others). I love the traffic handy in my inbox, a single click away. I will
not navigate a website for it more often - probably less - and if the
performance is poor, certainly I won't bother past that first slow
experience.
 On Jun 8, 2011 6:01 PM, "Will" <will.sterling at gmail.com> wrote:
> IMHO and observations mailing lists can stay alive on light traffic where
> forums require active and continuous participation from a decent amount of
> people to work. Otherwise it will wither on the vine. Are there any LUGs
> with an active forum? I don't see such such a niche forum attracting users
> for very long. Well unless the one thread about the website goes to 200
> pages and is enough to keep people around.
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Shawn Perry <shawn at redmop.com> wrote:
>
>> The only issue I saw with the upgrade was the calendar no longer having
>> links.
>>
>> I did notice one more thing, though. Bluehost doesn't appear to have
>> mailman anymore. I don't know how much pain this is going to cause.
>>
>> It's fine with me, I'd love to switch to a forum based list instead of an
>> email based one. But whatever y'all pick is fine with me.
>>
>>
>>
>> Shawn T Perry
>> Red Mop Computing Services
>> email: shawn at redmop.com
>> office: 720-319-7627
>> cell: 303-881-2623
>> web: http://www.redmop.com
>> facebook:
>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Red-Mop-Computing-Services/114352628589778
>> linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/shawnperry
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Collins Richey <crichey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Raymond DeRoo <rderoo at deroo.net> wrote:
>>> > Shawn--
>>> >
>>> >> If you JUST did it, then you caught me upgrading drupal to 7.2.
>>> >
>>> > Sure thing. I'm not opposed to people willing to try and get this
>>> working. Though as a few others have noted, this has been *MONTHS* in
>>> process and the club sill has little to show in the way of we
functioning
>>> website. Truthfully, the old once performed much better than what we
have
>>> seen thus far. As the site has now been on two different servers, I have
a
>>> hard time believing this is a "hardware issue" and really just feel that
>>> drupal is the wrong choice.
>>> >
>>>
>>> Of course the old site performs better. It consists of static pages
>>> that can only be updated via a cumbersome process. You are correct
>>> that MONTHS are involved in the process of working with Drupal. The
>>> reasoning behind Drupal is simple.
>>>
>>> 1. Several volunteers wanted to work with it.
>>> 2. Lots of people use it.
>>> 3. It provides forums, blogs, calendars, etc., and some of the
>>> volunteers believe that these functions have value.
>>> 4. At the end of the process, we will have more people trained to deal
>>> with the site and it will be easier to do routine work.
>>> 5. If in doubt, see number 1.
>>>
>>> We were not aware that the site would be problematic on our existing
>>> VPSlink server, so that resulted in some flailing about. Except for a
>>> known hardware condition and some upgrades, the current development
>>> server (not a VPSlink setup) is performing well. As of a few minutes
>>> ago the response times were sub-second.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Collins Richey
>>> If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries
>>> of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.
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