[clue] Gnome 3

[Charles W Downing]

I have a System76 Pangolin laptop, which I bought in 2008.  I have 
downloaded and burned to memory sticks both openSUSE and Fedora versions 
of Gnome3.  From a memory stick, both boot up and seem to work "as 
designed".  There are some good things and some bad things about the 
live versions.

1.  The Fedora version can change timezones, but it may have changed the 
internal clock.  The openSUSE version can also change the timezone, but, 
coming second, it didn't find the correct current time.

2.  Both recognize the built-in System76 quirks.

3. I agree that the interface will take some getting used to, but that's 
probably to be expected.

Now, for a disappointment.  I also have a System76 Pangolin laptop, 
which I just bought this year.  It is last year's model, since I got it 
on "close-out".   I have rejected Gnome3 out-of-hand for this machine 
because neither version recognizes the wireless interface.  I have 
installed both Linux Mint 10 and Ubuntu 11.04 on this box and they both 
use the wireless system from the "git-go".  They do require my manual 
intervention to fire it up, but Gnome3 doesn't even realise that the 
interface is there.  I could find no (easy) way to even hunt for this 
hardware in the menus.

Ah well, back to finding things on the old box.

On 05/01/2011 10:35 PM, Dennis J Perkins wrote:
> Arch Linux has switched to Gnome 2, so I have it on my laptop now.  It 
> uses Gnome Shell instead of Ubuntu's Unity.  My initial impression is 
> that it is merely change for the sake of change instead of an actual 
> improvement.  Many people are going to hate it as passionately as 
> others hate KDE 4.
>
> I don't see any way to put icons or documents on the desktop.  I 
> sometimes like to put working documents on the desktop and I see no 
> reason why someone should decide that I should not be able to do that.
>
> The old menus are gone.  The newer method takes more work.  I'm 
> probably going to rely more on Cairo Dock.
>
> The old applets are gone.  The new ones take up more room and there 
> are a few bugs, such as not showing up in the same position after 
> rebooting, even when they are supposed to be locked to one position.
>
> Multiple desktops are gone.  At least, I haven't found out how to make 
> it work.
>
> It also wants to use an accelerated graphics card or Gnome Shell will 
> not run.  The new Metacity window manager runs instead and its new 
> look is very similar to Gnome Shell but doesn't have the same 
> capabilities.  My laptop has accelerated graphics but it wasn't turned 
> on and I had to find out how to turn it on.
>
> I can't change the screensaver.  Before I could run xscreensaver or 
> Gnome Screensaver.  The only thing I can change is how long before it 
> kicks in.
>
> Hmm.  I haven't found anything yet that I consider an improvement.
>
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Chuck Downing
Highlands Ranch, Colorado USA

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