[clue] Budding SW Engineers

[David L. Willson]

I think it's not a matter of a pro not wanting to give away his time. I think in this specific case (where Ed V asked for a haxe talk/tutorial) that there just isn't anyone on the list with enough knowledge to give a talk/tutorial. 

I know LOTS of pros that give their time to eager learners. 

Getting mad at those that don't give their time might be childish, but I do it, too. And even when I don't get mad, I'm disappointed. 

I certainly don't keep that fucking hoarder as a friend, anyway, ever. All my friends are helpers and teachers, not hoarders. 

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David L. Willson 
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This is a good time for a r3volution. 

----- Original Message -----

> First, there are lots of places that are willing to teach you in
> exchange for a fee. These are schools.

> Second, there are a plethora of free high quality learning resources
> out there. MIT and Stanford both have initiatives for putting
> courses online. The awesome Structure and Interpretation of Computer
> Programs is available online for free. I hear that the Khan Academy
> has some great learning resources available.

> Third, there are many programming language/methodology user groups
> that would be a better place to get this type of help or at least
> find resources.

> Finally in response to to Ed, getting mad because a
> programmer/software engineer doesn't step up to teach you in
> exchange for beer money is childish. Would you ask a lawyer, mason,
> teacher, or other professional to volunteer to teach you and get mad
> if they didn't jump at the chance?

> Just my 2 cents.

> -jacob

> BTW - language is not as important as understanding what is being
> communicated in a language. Although some languages don't lend
> themselves to describing certain problems.

> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM, < lsawyer at scsdenver.com > wrote:

> > I Agree with Ed, I'd pay a fee for an instructor. However, the
> > $2,500
> > for 5 day IT courses is too steep for me.
> 

> > Larry
> 
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > 
> 
> > > Subject: Re: [clue] Budding SW Engineers
> > 
> 

> > > From: edv < ezedtheamerican at gmail.com >
> > 
> 
> > > Date: Tue, May 08, 2012 2:20 pm
> > 
> 
> > > To: clue at cluedenver.org
> > 
> 

> > > heck, I am trying to learn hAxe...
> > 
> 
> > > it is object oriented programing.
> > 
> 
> > > basically a person writes in hAxe and gets c++ javascript php
> > > source
> > 
> 
> > > code and from what I understand java and c# are soon to come as
> > > targets
> > 
> 
> > > for the haXe compilier.
> > 
> 
> > > I bought the intro to haXe book but I am not getting the
> > > understanding I
> > 
> 
> > > need because I don't understand the fundamentals of types,
> > > dynamic
> > 
> 
> > > types, and classes....
> > 
> 
> > > so if this thread is about learning programming I am in.
> > 
> 
> > > I can do some things in bash where I feel most comfortable but
> > > that
> > 
> 
> > > really IMO isn't a programming language.. ( I could be wrong... )
> > 
> 
> > > I am able to write in javascript but not without that online
> > > manual
> > > on
> > 
> 
> > > www.3schools.com
> > 
> 
> > > If there is anybody out there willing to help a person out
> > > learning
> > > what
> > 
> 
> > > the hype is about object oriented programming I am all for going
> > 
> 
> > > attending and paying for instruction.
> > 
> 
> > > I don't know the going rate for a guru but I am sure that if a
> > > seminar
> > 
> 
> > > was given on this subject I would at least make an effort to help
> > > a
> > > dude
> > 
> 
> > > out.
> > 
> 
> > > ed.
> > 
> 

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