[clue] Budding SW Engineers

[Chris Fedde]

I noticed the recent round of expletives traversing the list.  I'd
take Mark Twain's advice on this topic:

'Substitute "damn" every time you're inclined to write "very"; your
editor will delete it and the writing will be just as it   should be.'

chris

On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 2:54 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu> wrote:
> I think it's not a matter of a pro not wanting to give away his time. I
> think in this specific case (where Ed V asked for a haxe talk/tutorial) that
> there just isn't anyone on the list with enough knowledge to give a
> talk/tutorial.
>
> I know LOTS of pros that give their time to eager learners.
>
> Getting mad at those that don't give their time might be childish, but I do
> it, too. And even when I don't get mad, I'm disappointed.
>
> I certainly don't keep that fucking hoarder as a friend, anyway, ever. All
> my friends are helpers and teachers, not hoarders.
>
>
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> This is a good time for a r3volution.
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>
> First, there are lots of places that are willing to teach you in exchange
> for a fee. These are schools.
>
> Second, there are a plethora of free high quality learning resources out
> there. MIT and Stanford both have initiatives for putting courses online.
> The awesome Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs is available
> online for free. I hear that the Khan Academy has some great learning
> resources available.
>
> Third, there are many programming language/methodology user groups that
> would be a better place to get this type of help or at least find resources.
>
> Finally in response to to Ed, getting mad because a programmer/software
> engineer doesn't step up to teach you in exchange for beer money is
> childish. Would you ask a lawyer, mason, teacher, or other professional to
> volunteer to teach you and get mad if they didn't jump at the chance?
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> -jacob
>
> BTW - language is not as important as understanding what is being
> communicated in a language. Although some languages don't lend themselves to
> describing certain problems.
>
> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 10:30 AM, <lsawyer at scsdenver.com> wrote:
>>
>> I Agree with Ed, I'd pay a fee for an instructor. However, the $2,500 for
>> 5 day IT courses is too steep for me.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [clue] Budding SW Engineers
>> From: edv <ezedtheamerican at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tue, May 08, 2012 2:20 pm
>> To: clue at cluedenver.org
>>
>> heck, I am trying to learn hAxe...
>> it is object oriented programing.
>> basically a person writes in hAxe and gets c++ javascript php source
>> code and from what I understand java and c# are soon to come as targets
>> for the haXe compilier.
>> I bought the intro to haXe book but I am not getting the understanding I
>> need because I don't understand the fundamentals of types, dynamic
>> types, and classes....
>> so if this thread is about learning programming I am in.
>> I can do some things in bash where I feel most comfortable but that
>> really IMO isn't a programming language.. ( I could be wrong... )
>> I am able to write in javascript but not without that online manual on
>> www.3schools.com
>> If there is anybody out there willing to help a person out learning what
>> the hype is about object oriented programming I am all for going
>> attending and paying for instruction.
>> I don't know the going rate for a guru but I am sure that if a seminar
>> was given on this subject I would at least make an effort to help a dude
>> out.
>> ed.
>>
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