[clue] cmdb's? (seeking advice)

Thu Dec 3 17:00:00 MST 2015

That was me, and yeah, I don't think cmdb's really have a place in the
world anymore. With actual configuration management / deployment systems
and (if you need it for compliance) intrusion detection, they are pretty
outmoded.

QH

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:

> As a follow-up to this, I'm going to probably give this up.  I did manage
> to successfully map one of our test networks in onecmdb, but from the look
> of things onecmdb has been dead as a FOSS project for years and isn't the
> simplest thing to work with if you're not a full time CM. Somebody
> somewhere in this mailing list said to me that in order for it to be
> worthwhile to introduce one new thing it should replace 2 old things, and I
> tend to sympathize with the sentiment.
>
> Mike B
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Getting money to oss projects is frequently a challenge in organizations
>> that don't have a way to handle donations. I've successfully gotten it done
>> in the past by presenting the cost of a legitimately comparable proprietary
>> solution alongside the oss solution with a "consulting / customization"
>> line item that represents somewhere between 10 and 50 percent of the cost
>> of the proprietary one. With all the other lines being zero, it ends up
>> being perceived as a bargain, and the cost falls into a category that
>> accounting knows how to deal with.
>>
>> QH
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:59 PM, David L. Willson <DLWillson at thegeek.nu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Please pardon my political opportunism, but I'm going to throw in a very
>>> short sermon here. Feel free to delete now if you've heard enough of my
>>> crap.
>>>
>>> This is a reminder to all of us, me included. It is easy to become a
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>>> because the folks working on it had to "get real jobs".
>>>
>>> If free software gives you value, give something back. Words are good,
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>>> This is a good time for a r3VOLution.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Good thought, but I don't really have a project budget/money to spend on
>>> licenses,  I don't think tripwire is FOSS is it?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Quentin Hartman <qhartman at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So, at a previous gig, we were mandated to have a cmdb system and we
>>>> tried to implement it with a wiki, and it worked pretty well. However, what
>>>> I ended up doing for the systems I ran was use tripwire to log changes and
>>>> use that as my "cmdb". When required, I copy-pasta'd entries from the
>>>> tripwire log into the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> In the end, everyone was happy, and I didn't have to deal with tracking
>>>> stuff manually. Sounds like this might be a good fit for you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Not really a hardware thing that I have in mind.  More a question of
>>>>> looking for a way to find a searchable list of system changes that you can
>>>>> say refine, so when something breaks.  You can, for example, bring up a
>>>>> list of system changes that occurred within, oh say, the last week.   I
>>>>> gather most of the CMDBs are pay-per software.  Idoit, and onecmdb for
>>>>> example, are FOSS, but so far, problematic at best.   Some of the options
>>>>> I've looked at run in windows, few to none run on linux.  At least not
>>>>> well.  Looking at itop, not convinced on that one either.  Looks like I'd
>>>>> have to get a webserver going to have that running, but I don't see many
>>>>> ways around that.  Everything I look at either runs on apache on tomcat.
>>>>> Most have some sort of mysql backend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike B
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Matt James <matuse at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've used the Asset Tracker part of RT before and was reasonably
>>>>>> happy with it.  https://www.bestpractical.com/assets/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is that what you're looking for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has anyone had good experience with cmdb's they're comfortable
>>>>>>> recommending?  I'm attempting to evaluate, and so far, just looked at
>>>>>>> onecmdb and idoit, but not generally having good experiences.   I need
>>>>>>> linux support, and don't necessarily have an infinite amount of time to
>>>>>>> hack the thing into working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike B
>>>>>>>
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