[clue] Devops at work?

Quentin Hartman qhartman at gmail.com
Mon Nov 2 15:54:00 MST 2015

I don't have time to give a detailed answer now, but I "use devops" at
work, and it's generally a postiive change. I'll try to respond in more
detail later...


On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 7:14 AM, Charles Burton <charles.d.burton at gmail.com>

> I'm starting to push us down that road, which is a fairly interesting
> transition in research.  It's a slow process, but I'm laying the groundwork
> for it right now.  For instance I've setup Salt to handle all the steps
> involved in setting up new systems and built images that people can load on
> the VM servers that just require setting the hostname and enabling Salt.
> Then I tied it into Foreman and I've been working on building application
> profiles so that people just select one from Foreman for whatever work they
> want to do on their systems.  Next up is building the provisioning, but as
> our leadership chose Citrix Xen a few years ago it's a bit tricky at the
> moment.  That and we're dealing with lots of old crufty baggage from years
> of cowboy ops that I'm still working on cleaning up.  I'm the biggest
> change agent right now, but there is a lot coming down from above as well.
> We're NOAA so we're subject to rules from the Government and those have
> been the stick I've been using to effect change lately.  Basically I got
> senior management on board, the Federal security  team, and started by
> offering the carrot of a really good and easy to use platform backed by the
> stick of if the DHS tells me to shut something off I'll do it immediately.
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Sean LeBlanc <seanleblanc at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> Anyone doing devops thing at work? Depending on what that may mean, of
>> course...there is of course more the mindset and the collaboration and
>> the processes and politics that may be updated or maybe completely
>> disrupted (possibly in very good ways), but I'm also interested in
>> specific technical/engineering practices. (*)
>> Things like "literate devops", for example:
>> http://www.howardism.org/Technical/Emacs/literate-devops.html
>> What about pipelines in Jenkins and tools like
>> Puppet/Chef/Docker/Vagrant/Ansible/Salt to provision systems and start
>> incorporating more development practices (such as SCM) within the wider
>> IT organization?
>> How do you use those things? Have they paid off? Have you been a "change
>> agent" pushing these sort of things to make your life better, or has it
>> come from an external force (i.e., part of the command-and-control
>> structure of a corporation) and "devops" means something quite different
>> to them?
>> I ask because I went to Denver BSides last year (and this year) and they
>> had a panel of people to talk about DevOps, but not nearly enough time
>> for all the questions they were getting from the audience. I got only
>> one question in, and it was just before lunch, so there was a hard stop.
>> (*) For instance, see here: http://theagileadmin.com/what-is-devops/
>> What "devops" means seems to be a very fluid definition, much like
>> "Agile" itself. There is definitely both engineering practices as well
>> as the "what is visible to management, especially non-technical
>> management" part within "Agile", especially Scrum, and that presents a
>> very real problem when trying to talk about these subjects.
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