[clue] Fwd: seeking puppet advice

[Quentin Hartman]

Just going to quickly throw my 0.02 in. Stuff like this is why I abandoned
Puppet and ran into the warm embrace of Chef and haven't looked back. Chef
isn't perfect by any stretch, but omg, it's a such a pleasure next to
Puppet... I haven't really played with Ansible, but I hear it's nice.

QH

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Chris Fedde <chris at fedde.us> wrote:

> Ok.  I'll crawl back out from under my bridge.
>
> You are right. Ansible just uses ssh and python.  To do anything useful,
> the remote system has to trust the remote user.  Either by allowing root to
> ssh directly in or via some su or sudo approach.
> Prior to adopting ansible I was using pssh.  First I would pscp a script
> to the remote systems then I'd pssh to execute it. Still at some level of
> thought this is pretty much how ansible works.
>
> The main value that gets added here is that there is a pretty reasonable
> body of documentation and automaton steps that has already been written.
> There are a number of organizational features around inventory management,
> template and execution order that work well for me.  Also it is mostly push
> based which means that it is pretty easy to run from an engineer's
> workstation. Of course that has benefits and drawbacks too.
>
> Personally I'm old enough that I think that Perl is still cool.  If you
> also like perl and config mgmt you might like to look at:
> http://www.rexify.org/
>
> chris
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Mike Nolte <obiwanmikenolte at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nyah-ha!  Chris is trolling!  I vote CFEngine!
>>
>> I don't want to start a debate, but can you elaborate on why you think
>> that Ansible is better?  When you say "overhead," what do you mean?
>>
>> I've looked at Ansible a few times, and I've worked through the O'Reilly
>> book, but it was a slog.  All I kept thinking was, "This is just root SSH!"
>>
>> Also, do you use more Ruby or Python?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Chris Fedde <chris at fedde.us> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to be an ass here and just say "ansible".
>>>
>>> Puppet is a great tool but I think that it requires too much ceremony
>>> and has transformation rules that I can't wrap my head around.
>>> While I don't consider our investment in puppet to be sunk cost I do
>>> think that we could have been farther along if we had invested the same
>>> time in ansible.
>>> Of course about half of our problem with puppet has as much to do with
>>> giant company overhead as it does with a
>>>
>>> https://ansible.wistia.com/medias/qrqfj371b6
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Follow-up:
>>>> It is!   It's the bloody camel-casing!
>>>> I created the exact same module/directory structure and called it
>>>> atest, instead of aTest, and it worked fine!
>>>> Sheesh.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the spam.
>>>>
>>>> Mike B
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: Mike Bean <beandaemon at gmail.com>
>>>> Date: Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 2:05 PM
>>>> Subject: seeking puppet advice
>>>> To: CLUE's mailing list <clue at cluedenver.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've been staring at something, looking at google, various books for a
>>>> couple days now, I don't know what the heck is going on.  I've got a
>>>> prototype puppet server going in a small environment, but I haven't managed
>>>> to apply a roll-my-own module yet.
>>>>
>>>> I get
>>>> Error: Could not find class aTest for mul-puppet.xxx on node
>>>> mul-puppet.xxxx
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly enough, physically specifiying the long path in the
>>>> site.pp file seems to work
>>>>
>>>> import '/etc/puppet/modules/aTest/manifests/init.pp'
>>>>
>>>> root at mul-puppet:/etc/puppet/manifests# cat
>>>> /etc/puppet/modules/aTest/manifests/init.pp
>>>> class aTest {}
>>>>
>>>> What I don't understand is why the autoloader can't handle it.  I
>>>> literally have other modules I've copied from books the exact same way,
>>>> there's only one difference.   The module name is camelCase.    Is it that
>>>> simple?   does screwing with the case mess with the puppet autoloader?
>>>>
>>>> Mike B
>>>>
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