Chris, you can't get rid of many core dependencies, and can't optimize anything in the OS for your system. You can't compile the shell. I've been using slackware for almost 16 years, and now I use gentoo. Install anything like gentoo and you will not go back.<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:36 PM, Chris Ernst <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:penguin-guy@comcast.net">penguin-guy@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
You're missing the point. Nothing is locked down. I defy you to give<br>
me one example of anything in Ubuntu that is locked down.<br>
<br>
They might do some things differently than you would like, there is<br>
nothing about it that can't be changed.<br>
<br>
- Chris<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 04/29/2011 04:24 PM, Torren Beitler wrote:<br>
> You are locked down with Ubuntu, it doesn't allow anything in the OS to<br>
> be tweaked, and so many dependencies. There's a reason Richard and Linus<br>
> both don't use Ubuntu.<br>
><br>
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:02 PM, adam bultman <<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a><br>
</div><div class="im">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Well, if you like, I'll provide you with everything you need to tweak<br>
> Ubuntu, if you like. You just have to know the right order:<br>
><br>
> 0 1<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> GL;HF<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 04/29/2011 01:21 PM, Torren Beitler wrote:<br>
> > What's locked down about it is the fact that you can't optimize it,<br>
> > can't code anything in the OS. Ubuntu goes against what Linux is<br>
> > about. Linux is about freedom, Ubuntu locks you down and forces you to<br>
> > do shit that's not needed. Gentoo, arch, slackware, any others like<br>
> > those are real linux shit. Ubuntu=free mac OS<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:17 PM, adam bultman <<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a>><br>
</div><div><div></div><div class="h5">> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:adamb@glaven.org">adamb@glaven.org</a>>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On 04/29/2011 01:03 PM, Mike Bean wrote:<br>
> > > That's my thought.� We have a fairly laissez-faire<br>
> workplace, so I'm<br>
> > > fairly certain nobody will care if I use linux as long as it<br>
> doesn't<br>
> > > interfere with the work.� I just don't want to have to have the<br>
> > > conversation that I can't work that ticket because I slagged my<br>
> > > computer via some stupid mistake� (loading a package I shouldn't<br>
> > have<br>
> > > or something), and it didn't occur to me, but Ubuntu has like a<br>
> > > million respins that aren't likely to adopt unity.�� xubuntu,<br>
> > lubuntu,<br>
> > > kubuntu,� well, it's worth considering anyway, but it definitely<br>
> > > sounds like most of the people so far are voting no on<br>
> 11.04, or at<br>
> > > least no on Unity.<br>
> ><br>
> > Well, my workplace isn't necessarily laissez-faire; I'm<br>
> *supposed* to<br>
> > use windows, but my boss, and others realize that if I'm<br>
> working on<br>
> > linux and solaris boxes all day, it might make more sense to<br>
> be on a<br>
> > linux box than a windows box. I'm more efficient on a linux box<br>
> > anyway,<br>
> > since I can have a multitude of terminals open (in tabs), copy and<br>
> > paste<br>
> > between that and my windows VM, via my various systems at my<br>
> desk via<br>
> > Synergy, etc, and I don't need any special software for<br>
> anything in<br>
> > particular (for example, not high-priced software so I can<br>
> export X to<br>
> > my workstation from another server. Work firmly believes that<br>
> if you<br>
> > don't pay for it, it is worthless, so Cygwin is frowned upon.)<br>
> ><br>
> > For me, it's not necessarily slagging my computer because of a<br>
> > mistake,<br>
> > but rather taking an extensive amount of time to tweak things and<br>
> > get it<br>
> > right. My new work laptop was built running Linux, and<br>
> syncing all my<br>
> > preferences before my coworker had managed to reinstall windows on<br>
> > hers<br>
> > (because Dell ships with awful amounts of crap on them.) And<br>
> > furthermore, since I'm not crashing or rebooting all the time, I'm<br>
> > working more.<br>
> ><br>
> > So maybe I *should* get some other version of linux, just so I<br>
> > have more<br>
> > spare time while I wait for things to compile...<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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