<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Sounds like you need to install a wireless driver. Did you install Gnome 3 or just test it with a live CD? Did you need to install the wireless driver separately?<br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Charles W Downing" <chuckdowning@earthlink.net><br>To: "CLUE's mailing list" <clue@cluedenver.org><br>Sent: Monday, May 2, 2011 12:06:18 PM<br>Subject: Re: [clue] Gnome 3<br><br>
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I have a System76 Pangolin laptop, which I bought in 2008. I have
downloaded and burned to memory sticks both openSUSE and Fedora
versions of Gnome3. From a memory stick, both boot up and seem to
work "as designed". There are some good things and some bad things
about the live versions.<br>
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1. The Fedora version can change timezones, but it may have changed
the internal clock. The openSUSE version can also change the
timezone, but, coming second, it didn't find the correct current
time.<br>
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2. Both recognize the built-in System76 quirks.<br>
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3. I agree that the interface will take some getting used to, but
that's probably to be expected.<br>
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Now, for a disappointment. I also have a System76 Pangolin laptop,
which I just bought this year. It is last year's model, since I got
it on "close-out". I have rejected Gnome3 out-of-hand for this
machine because neither version recognizes the wireless interface.
I have installed both Linux Mint 10 and Ubuntu 11.04 on this box and
they both use the wireless system from the "git-go". They do
require my manual intervention to fire it up, but Gnome3 doesn't
even realise that the interface is there. I could find no (easy)
way to even hunt for this hardware in the menus.<br>
<br>
Ah well, back to finding things on the old box.<br>
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On 05/01/2011 10:35 PM, Dennis J Perkins wrote:
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Arch Linux has switched to Gnome 2, so I have it on my laptop
now. It uses Gnome Shell instead of Ubuntu's Unity. My initial
impression is that it is merely change for the sake of change
instead of an actual improvement. Many people are going to hate
it as passionately as others hate KDE 4.<br>
<br>
I don't see any way to put icons or documents on the desktop. I
sometimes like to put working documents on the desktop and I see
no reason why someone should decide that I should not be able to
do that.<br>
<br>
The old menus are gone. The newer method takes more work. I'm
probably going to rely more on Cairo Dock.<br>
<br>
The old applets are gone. The new ones take up more room and
there are a few bugs, such as not showing up in the same position
after rebooting, even when they are supposed to be locked to one
position.<br>
<br>
Multiple desktops are gone. At least, I haven't found out how to
make it work.<br>
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It also wants to use an accelerated graphics card or Gnome Shell
will not run. The new Metacity window manager runs instead and
its new look is very similar to Gnome Shell but doesn't have the
same capabilities. My laptop has accelerated graphics but it
wasn't turned on and I had to find out how to turn it on.<br>
<br>
I can't change the screensaver. Before I could run xscreensaver
or Gnome Screensaver. The only thing I can change is how long
before it kicks in.<br>
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Hmm. I haven't found anything yet that I consider an improvement.
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Chuck Downing
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