<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>Welcome back! <br><br>You probably don't know everything that happened. Your fixes seemed to work at first, then on May 21 the server locked up and we couldn't get it. VPSLink rebooted it (late Sunday I think) and it locked up again on Monday. Dave Anselmi asked us if we should switch back to the old website for now and I said yes because we had an Installfest coming up and it was more important that people get infomation about it. Dave then switched us back. Besides, how often will VPSLink reboot it before they tell us to fix the problem? Gus disagreed and felt that I should not make decisions by myself. It was the nature of his disagreement that spurred someone to tell him he was out of line.<br><br>Mark Harvey is looking at the logs. We had a lot of segmentation faults and kill failure messages after we switched. I don't know why because what you did should have lessened the load. Memory does seem to be the problem. Alex Llera took a look at what could be done to optimize the server and offered suggestions. It might be a good idea to do a VM with only 256MB and see if it has problems.<br><br>We will have another server meeting this Thursday evening. I know you don't like weekday meetings but I want others who can't come to a Saturday meeting to offer suggestions. Suggested hosting providers at this time are Rackspace, Amazon and Bluehost. Personally, my preference at this time is Bluehost. Cost is definitely an issue. If we need to increase cost, let's keep it to a minimum. People will not want to donate money all the time.<br><br>Chris Fedde set up a website for us to test with. Restoring to it has uncovered a problem that I am trying to track down. We can't log in via the normal route. I can do so via a backdoor but I cannot make any changes.<br><br><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Collins Richey" <crichey@gmail.com><br>To: "CLUE's mailing list" <clue@cluedenver.org><br>Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 5:43:52 AM<br>Subject: Re: [clue] [TALK] I have been told ( privately ) to shut my face.<br><br>On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 6:14 PM, YES NOPE9 <yes@nope9.com> wrote:<br>> I have been told ( privately ) to shut my face. By more than one person.<br>> Maybe that is best for CLUE .... but before I<br>> shut my face I want to say the following :<br>><br>> I was told by a very wise person that if there was something to be done in a volunteer group....<br>> don't try to dump it on someone else. If you thought it was important , then do it. And find out who else is working on it as well... so you can collaborate.<br>><br><br>> I will fight for openness and the death of cliques. And I will ignore PC and CW pro-nouncements.<br>><br><br>Ah, what a difference a week (and a few assorted critical problems)<br>make! I have to agree with Gus. Either we have a collaborative group<br>or a clique of "I know better than you" types. We have at least one<br>recent example of that, and we don't need more. I'm hoping that the<br>temperatures will subside after we get the server problem resolved.<br>Stick to your guns, Gus. See 'ya on Thursday.<br><br>-- <br>Collins Richey<br> If you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries<br> of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.<br>_______________________________________________<br>clue mailing list<br>clue@cluedenver.org<br>http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue<br></div></body></html>