I don't think anyone can honestly argue that you need to respect and/or love the company, I really got the sense that people were making the standard "technology is a tool" argument. You can use a wrench to fix something or to break somebody's head open, but, at the risk of paraphrasing; It's a waste of energy to hate the wrench because of it.<br>
<br>I can sympathize with both ends of the argument actually. Most of me is fairly rational and wholly buys into that argument, however, there's a good portion of me that HATES for purely irrational reasons and enjoys said hate.<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 9:33 AM, Philipp Giddings <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:webmaster@continentalbook.com">webmaster@continentalbook.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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On 6/5/2011 2:52 PM, Raymond DeRoo wrote:<br>
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>> How much are we allowed to bash Windows in this list? Where is the line drawn between expressing our feelings and just being disrespectful to Microsoft drawn? I hear Windows 8 is in the final stages of development.<br>
> I cannot speak for anyone other than myself, so let me put this forward.<br>
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> Today I had a *very* frustrating day trying to talk a novice computer user thought downloading a .bin file. As it turns out the user has VLC installed and both Internet Explorer and Firefox kept insisting that the file be opened with VLC, no option appeared to allow for just downloading the file. In frustration I found webfetch.exe which is supposed to be somewhat like wget. After attempting to use webfetch and having the contents of the file dumped to STDOUT causing the CMD window to stop responding ( wasn't even able to close it ) thus requiring a reboot of Windows ( version 7 ). I just gave up.<br>
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> That being said, I would not normally post such a message here, regardless of how frustrated I became, as I would not care to read such a message that was just another venting. Beyond that however, just to hear someone bash/bad mouth and OS because *they* don't like it, to me is unacceptable. I run windows in a VM for one application for which there is no Linux/OS X counterpart. It's a tool, I use whatever tools I need to do the job I'm requested to do. Do I like Windows no? Do I necessarily like Microsoft? Not really. But my kids and myself both own XBox's... What I feel it is important to remember that Microsoft meets the needs of many people today, and further it has been the driving force ( perhaps due to dislike or even hatred ) in the Open Source community as well. Microsoft got to where they are for a reason,<br>
</div>anti-competitive practices buying or stealing others ideas (software and<br>
cobbling them in to their system) No respect here!<br>
Although I have to support this these machines with MS on them does not<br>
mean I respect the company.<br>
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> and as such some respect should be afforded to them for that.<br>
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> But hey, those are just *my* views. However I would unsubscribe this list if there where as many OS bashing posts as there have been "Things for Sale" posts. ;)<br>
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