I don't mind political subjects, look at SOPA for example. You could very much argue that infringes on the userspace. I just didn't answer at first, because well, Torren's tone didn't make it sound like something he wanted to discuss. I can't recall having seven days worth of food ever being construed as anything close to terrorism. Personally, I like this list, I've asked a bunch of questions on it, and I never would've found out about the bash class without it. Sometimes, ...odd things come up, but I'll take it as a net profit, metaphorically speaking.<br>
<br>Bean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Dennis J Perkins <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dennisjperkins@comcast.net">dennisjperkins@comcast.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
I was inclined to let it slide as long as the topic died quickly. After<br>
reading these comments, I agree that the list should be focused on Linux and<br>
other FLOSS. And job postings to help CLUEbies find work.<br>
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
On Sunday, December 04, 2011 09:44:40 AM David L. Willson wrote:<br>
> Below is the description of the CLUE list, from this page:<br>
> <a href="http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue" target="_blank">http://cluedenver.org/mailman/listinfo/clue</a>, by the much-revered Dave A.<br>
> Hanson:<br>
><br>
> "The clue list is our forum for discussions about GNU/Linux and Free<br>
> Software. Ask questions, receive answers, and generally discuss topics<br>
> related to Free Software and computing. "Job openings or desires are OK but<br>
> please don't post attachments. Please provide contact info or links so that<br>
> people can pursue their interest off the list."<br>
><br>
> Therefore, I retract my earlier statement. Non-relevant postings are not OK.<br>
> When a post author is asked to relate his post to Free Software, he should<br>
> do so plainly. Trolling can result in being kicked. Persistent trolling can<br>
> result in being banned.<br>
><br>
> Will Sterling, Crawford Rainwater, and M Paul Webb were right, and I was<br>
> wrong. I am sorry for my mis-leading post.<br>
><br>
> There is no longer a CLUE-sponsored channel for off-topic discussions. Take<br>
> them ... somewhere else.<br>
><br>
> David L. Willson<br>
> Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>
> RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>
> tel://720.333.LANS<br>
> Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux.<br>
><br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
><br>
> > My understanding was that the great merge would have encompassed<br>
> > clue-talk, as well.<br>
> ><br>
> > On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:13 AM, M Paul Webb < <a href="mailto:hsechmvt@yahoo.com">hsechmvt@yahoo.com</a> > wrote:<br>
> > > Obviously, that last post by Torren was blatant abuse of this<br>
> > > group's<br>
> > > objectives. However, sometimes political issues do become involved<br>
> > > in how we use our computers, and right now, the possibility of<br>
> > > censorship is a legitimate concern -- but not as a call for<br>
> > > violence. At times, mere administrator discretion is called for in<br>
> > > controlling the e-mails.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Here is how I state the rule on my forum.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <<< Posting with intent to derail and harass conversation, or to<br>
> > > promote an agenda subverts the objectives of the forum. At times it<br>
> > > is difficult to distinguish between trolling and genuine<br>
> > > disagreement. However, as a general rule, administration reserves<br>
> > > the right to ban any participant or to remove any post or thread,<br>
> > > by<br>
> > > discretion and at any time, when it appears the purpose of the<br>
> > > forum<br>
> > > and its rules and guidelines have been compromised.>>><br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > From: Crawford Rainwater < <a href="mailto:crawford.rainwater@linux-etc.com">crawford.rainwater@linux-etc.com</a> ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > To: <a href="mailto:clue@cluedenver.org">clue@cluedenver.org</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2011 6:38 PM<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Subject: Re: [clue] [POLITICS] The rights to of the people are<br>
> > > gone.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Torren and others on the list:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > This is related to Linux and Open Source which is the main<br>
> > > topic/purpose of this user group's email list how I do inquire?<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > I am requesting the list admins actually start administrating the<br>
> > > list some if this is going to become common place. Being a former<br>
> > > admin that retired, I find this personally questionable as to being<br>
> > > appropriate for a general list here (maybe the old CLUE-Talk list<br>
> > > at<br>
> > > best).<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Thanks in advance.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > --- Crawford<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > ----- Torren Beitler < <a href="mailto:torren.beitler@gmail.com">torren.beitler@gmail.com</a> > wrote: -----<br>
> > ><br>
> > > > Who here is deeply disturbed by the fact that you can now be<br>
> > > > held...<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <...snipped...due to subject matter being questionable regarding<br>
> > > this<br>
> > > list...><br>
> > ><br>
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