<html><head><style type='text/css'>p { margin: 0; }</style></head><body><div style='font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>May I state my hard-won belief on and around such things?<br><br>We need less law and more forbearance.<br><br>We have developed the habit of thinking that we can improve relationships with legislation, litigation, or other forms of force, and far too often we believe that violence, legislation, or litigation is the only way to make a particular relationship, or set of relationships, work. Nothing, in my opinion, could be further from the truth.<br><br>I know no-one whose best effort can be produced by force. No one.<br><br>So, if/when I'm asked what the government should do about just about anything, I will answer, "nothing" or "much, much less."<br><br>Men, freely associated and joined by agreements that are as binding as their own sense of honor, can accomplish everything you might have wanted from a government, from a set of laws, and do a better job of it.<br><br><span><span name="x"></span>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>tel://720.333.LANS<br>Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux.<span name="x"></span><br></span><br><hr id="zwchr"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">It's an interesting speech. My "summary" probably did a poor job as I glossed a 45 minute keynote down to 2 or 3 sentences, but I tend to agree with most of the content. Suffice it to say he thinks "copyright wars" are just the beginning.<br>
<br>Bean<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM, David L. Willson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DLWillson@thegeek.nu" target="_blank">DLWillson@thegeek.nu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Ah, sorry, I meant automobiles with spyware.<span> I'm definitely going to watch the Doctorow piece tonight.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
<br><span></span>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE MCT MCSE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 NovellCLA UbuntuCP<br>tel://720.333.LANS<br>Freedom is better when you earn it. Learn Linux.<span></span><br>
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<div><a href="http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html" target="_blank">http://boingboing.net/2011/12/27/the-coming-war-on-general-purp.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>That is where I saw it initially. <br>
<br>On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:59 AM, "David L. Willson" <<a href="mailto:DLWillson@TheGeek.NU" target="_blank">DLWillson@TheGeek.NU</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote><div><div style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
That's interesting, and I'd like to know more. Link, please?<span><br></span><br><hr><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">
Very likely... Automobiles are being pre-installed with spyware.<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 2, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Mike Bean wrote:</div><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg</a><br>
<br>Cory D. has an interesting keynote making the rounds on you tube, if you have a couple extra cycles, I suggest a listen. Mileage may vary, depending on your feelings on Cory, but I tend to think he's right more often then he's wrong. He's essentially arguing that because you can't build a PC that will do only lawful things, that will inevitably (and are already seeing) A rise in what amounts to appliances and computers with spyware pre-installed.<br>
<br>Bean<br>
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