<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>David, I think I ran into this somewhere and I believe it had something to do with the redirect you used to create test.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>I have had times where I couldn't create a file or do a touch on it to update it, but I was allowed to redirect information into a file.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>I can't remember the reasoning behind it, but for some reason that floated to the top of my memory.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Alex<br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> David L. Willson
<DLWillson@TheGeek.NU><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> CLUE's mailing list <clue@cluedenver.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:21 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [clue] When is it OK to write to a 555 dir?<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv2008512081"><style type="text/css">#yiv2008512081 p {margin:0;}</style><div><div style="font-family:Times New Roman;font-size:12pt;color:#000000;"><span>Weirdness... a directory is clearly 555, but I can write files into it. Files which I subsequently cannot remove...<br><br>It should work like this:<br><br></span><div style="margin-left:40px;"><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ mkdir test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dlwillson@dwillson-nb-1:5/~/temp 14:17:17</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ chmod 555 test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dlwillson@dwillson-nb-1:5/~/temp 14:17:23</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ cd test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dlwillson@dwillson-nb-1:5/~/temp/test 14:17:25</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">total 8</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dr-xr-xr-x 2 dlwillson dlwillson 4096 May 2 14:17 ./</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">drwxrwxr-x 3 dlwillson dlwillson 4096 May 2 14:17 ../</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dlwillson@dwillson-nb-1:5/~/temp/test 14:17:28</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ > bingo</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">bash: bingo: Permission denied</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dlwillson@dwillson-nb-1:5/~/temp/test 14:17:35</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ </span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"></span></div><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"><br>But instead it works like this:<br><br></span><div style="margin-left:40px;"><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA 14:07:12</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ cd COG/</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:07:18</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll -d .</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dr-xr-xr-x 2 root bluearc 2048 May 2 13:53 .</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:09:41</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ > test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:10:03</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">total 210112</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">...</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx 1 dlsa bluearc 43000 May 2 13:51 jeff.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:10 test</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:10:04</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ls -al</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">total 210176</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dr-xr-xr-x 2 root bluearc 2048 May 2 14:10 .</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">dr-xr-xr-x 4 root bluearc 2048 May 2 13:05 ..</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">...</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx 1 dlsa bluearc 43000 May 2
13:51 jeff.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:10 test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:10:15</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ rm test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">rm: cannot remove `test': Permission denied</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:10:30</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll -Z</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx root
bluearc AUTO_SFJDL505ID_JDLNIDDID_20111118F001ID2011_5000000.out.DAT</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx root bluearc COG_raw_1k_test_data_from_F001.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx dlsa
bluearc jeff.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- sudavidw linux_users test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:10:55</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ getfacl .</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"># file: .</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"># owner:
root</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"># group: bluearc</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">user::r-x</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">group::r-x</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">other::r-x</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"></span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:11:20</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ cp test test2</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:11:45</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">total
210112</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx 1 dlsa bluearc 43000 May 2 13:51 jeff.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:10 test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:11 test2</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:11:47</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ rm test*</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">rm: cannot remove `test': Permission denied</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">rm: cannot remove `test2': Permission denied</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA 14:13:51</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ rm jeff.txt </span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">rm: cannot remove `jeff.txt': Permission denied</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA 14:14:00</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ sudo rm jeff.txt </span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA 14:14:06</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ cd COG/</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:14:15</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ ll</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">total 210112</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">...</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rwxrwxrwx 1 dlsa bluearc 43000 May 2 13:51 jeff.txt</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:10 test</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">-rw-r--r-- 1 sudavidw linux_users 0 May 2 14:11 test2</span><br><span
id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:14:16</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ sudo rm test* jeff.txt </span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">sudavidw@dcoscrip01:1//net/nas1/NA/Technology/EDT/Test_data_for_new_COA/COG 14:14:22</span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8">$ </span><br><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"></span></div><span id="yiv20085120811db0e1d5-cb88-49a4-8e2f-e90f3b6109a8"><br><span></span>--<br>David L. Willson<br>Trainer, Engineer, Enthusiast<br>RHCE Network+ A+ Linux+ LPIC-1 Ubuntu<br>Mobile 720-333-LANS(5267)<br><br>This is a good time for a r3volution.<span></span><br></span><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>clue mailing list: <a ymailto="mailto:clue@cluedenver.org"
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